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Townsend posted an update on a suit involving Professor Timothy Jackson and the
University of North Texas. He has a title saying Jackson has
been vindicated. Settling so that a suit doesn’t actually go to trial may or
may not be a “win” or a “vindication”.
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Sunday, July 20, 2025
recent settlement between University of North Texas and Prof. Timothy Jackson, though I'm not sure I'd say anyone has necessarily been vindicated
Saturday, February 22, 2025
some reservations about Ethan Iverson's suggestion that symphonic musicians should learn how to play blues and a beat
https://iverson.substack.com/p/tt-468-identity-politics-postmortem
…
On the musical front,
let me take this time of liberal bloodletting to mention Florence Price. In the
woke era, the classical establishment decided that elevating this long dead
black woman composer would expiate their sins.
Price’s ragtime-ish
piece “Nimble Feet” has had new reach; I just counted 40 performances uploaded
to YouTube in the last few years. The piece is attractive although a bit bland.
However, that’s not my problem, for a basic argument for diversity is easy to
understand. What I find so frustrating is that none of the performers I
listened to treated “Nimble Feet” like common practice black music, meaning a
situation where the pulse is ruthlessly even and the syncopations work in
African opposition to the ground rhythm. Rather, the performances are full of a
romantic European attitude.
Going one step further:
Florence Price took the gatekeepers off the hook. The gatekeepers could fund
the performance of an old Price symphony (or a new Concerto in Memoriam George
Floyd or whatever), get the social justice kudos at the gala, then go home and
watch their stock index go up. Meanwhile, nothing about common practice black
music was learned within classical institutions.
Our symphonic musicians should just finally learn to
play the blues and a beat! It’s not that hard! If you can learn to play Mahler,
you can learn to play the basic blues and a basic beat. Once again, this was
the point of my New York Times essay about Rhapsody in Blue, “The Worst Masterpiece.”
…
Related post: Philip
Ewell’s musicological book from 2023 is peak woke, and I found plenty to
criticize.
The question begged in Iverson’s comment is why “symphonic
musicians should just finally learn to play the blues and a beat”?
What does Iverson really mean by common practice black
music? Which blacks? In the United States? In Kenya?
In Indonesia? In Ghana? I pick Kenya and Ghana non-randomly because I’ve
benefited greatly from books by Christian pastors and theologians from Ghana
and a few of my friends in my college years were fellow Christians from
Kenya. I can intuit what Iverson really
means by common practice black music but if I intuit correctly then Samuel
Coleridge-Taylor’s Hiawatha is emphatically not part of that common
practice black music. There are a
variety of questions begged behind two claims and I don’t consider it hair-splitting
to ask what assumptions have gone into the claims.
What does Iverson think symphonic musicians have to gain
from learning to play blues and a beat?
The ability to improvise? Well, no, they won’t learn anything about
improvisation from blues and a beat that didn’t exist in the centuries of
figured bass usage or in the Italian partimento practices that span
centuries. Blue notes? If by blue notes
we mean notes that can only be found “between the keys”, well, Anton Reicha was extolling the use of
quarter-tones in his Treatise on Melody back around 1810. False relations where G natural and G sharp
show up at the same time or in close temporal proximity? Those show up in English liturgical music
from around the time of Tallis and Byrd.
The trouble is that you could pick almost any random element Iverson
might potentially propose symphonic musicians could learn by learning to play
blues and a beat and not a single one of those elements, taken in isolation, is
something that hasn’t been around within concert music traditions. Sure, the combination of ingredients
in blues is different but there’s a more foundational question that is begged
behind the question what is to be gained.
Whatever common practice black music Iverson means it is
clear that just playing more Florence Price somehow fails to convey the secrets
and wisdom contained in common practice black music. But if Lorence Price, a black woman composer,
is bereft of those qualities in such a way that playing her music adds “nothing”
whose music would?
But which common practice Iverson means leads to another
question, whether common practice black music and common practice white music
are necessarily different. We know this
isn’t the case when it comes to, say, Christian hymnody. Thomas Andrew Dorsey made very few changes to
“Maitland” when he composed his most famous and justifiably beloved hymn. This is well-known and gets mentioned by Michael
Harris in a book about Dorsey’s Gospel blues legacy.
William T.
Dargan wrote about the lining out tradition and showed fairly persuasively that
the lining out tradition began in the seventeenth century in low Anglican
parishes where literacy was low. The
lining out tradition among poor English and Scottish parishes was so
commonplace that the tradition of lining out metrical psalmody migrated to the
American colonies. There it flourished for a time until nascent black American
churches used it and higher brows contended that white churches should switch
to shape-note hymnody so as not to have the same kind of lined out metrical
psalmody and Dr. Watts idioms in common with their black churchgoing
contemporaries. At different stages in
the American experiment white and black churches in the low liturgical scenes
had so much in common there were edicts against the shared vernacular. There have been periods among white and black
communities where there were shared musical practices and yet one side or
another decided that for the sake of some kind of racial differentiation or
pursuit of distinction commonalities needed to be de-emphasized or a tradition
needed to be overtly sidelined.
While in predominantly white churches in the 1970s through
1990s there are accounts of worship wars it might be precisely on this topic of
Christian battles over what liturgical music is or isn’t suitable that we learn
these battles happen in age after age.
In the United States in the early 20th century a case can be
made that was in black churches in what religion scholars would probably call
the mainline in which worship wars were fought in the early 20th
century. You won’t get a very fair take
on the situation Richard Allen faced in founding the African Methodist
Episcopal Church if you only read something like Michael
Harris’ book on Thomas Andrew Dorsey and the birth of Gospel blues.
On the other hand if you read Mark Burford’s magisterial Mahalia Jackson and the Black
Gospel Field you will learn something, the triumph of Gospel blues and
the whoop-it-up Gospel shouter singers was so complete that figures among black
classical music who openly expressed reservations about this new popular
direction in black American church music were functionally sidelined. William Levi Dawson was doubtful about the
new direction because it would pave the way for pastors and church music
directors to just run with the least trained and least talented musicians who
knew how to work crowds. But were those
reservations informed by Eurocentric highbrow pretenses? You could choose to read Singing
Like Germans that way.
But the salient point I am trying to make here is that
people choosing to reject entire bodies of music in the interest of preserving
a perceived racial distinction goes in every direction. One of my personal reservations about Ewell’s
book was that he wrote as though the erasure of BIPOC composers within
classical music were done by white theorists.
Doubtless this would be the majority pattern, I surmise, but Mark
Burford’s work suggests another possibility, that the triumph pf black popular
musical styles entailed a parallel rejection of musical styles and forms that
were construed as too Euro-aspirant. In
other words, if Burford’s observation that men like William Levi Dawson had
reservations about nascent Gospel blues as the purview of musical hacks it’s
not a foregone conclusion that blues and ragtime and jazz were all there is or
was to a common practice black music. The violin works of Joseph Boulougne will be
sidelined if those whose idea of black music is Armstrong and Davis keep
calling the shots just as much as it will be sidelined if people of the cult of
Beethoven keep doing their thing.
Classical music by black composers may have been sidelined by black
communities choosing to stop backing composers of symphonic and operatic music
as by white hostility.
The triumph of blues and jazz as “the” common practice
black music may be an overlooked part of the failure of Florence Price’s music
to have gotten more traction. It’s not
that her work is badly made it’s that we’ve already got Scott Joplin and I just
think it's patently obvious Scott Joplin’s music is more memorable than the
music of Florence Price. I recall Iverson had a
few words about Harrison for the centennial of the composer’s birth but I
don’t recall a similar post that same year observing the centennial of Scott
Joplin’s death. Harrison’s music for
guitar using just intonation octatonic scales is fun and I recommend you give
it a listen. That said, is there some
kind of tell in Iverson having not written much about Joplin’s death and his influence
back in 2017? What was it about Harrison
that got a post but not the King of Ragtime?
Since I’m on the matter of ragtime now might be a time to
ask whether or not a common practice is actually an accurate handling of a
musical style. Jazz pianists may say you
ought to play rags with swing. I don’t
recall Joplin ever mentioning swing in his School of Ragtime. For ragtime composed and published before the
Jazz Age it’s not a given that you should swing the sixteenth note or any note
values. We know that Scott Joplin’s
contemporary Joseph Lamb did not exactly play with swing.
There’s nothing in Joplin’s School of
Ragtime to suggest swing was a concept to apply to his music. “Play
slowly until you catch the swing” is not proof that “swing” as jazz players
define it was what was meant. Joplin elsewhere said that Exercise No. 2 would
be screwed up by pianists who liked to vamp. When a jazz pianist says that ragtime should
be played with swing it’s okay to be skeptical, especially if you’re familiar
with the primary sources (Joplin and Scott and not any jazz musicians from 1917
onward who played Joplin).
Let’s say symphonic musicians would benefit from
learning to play blues and a beat.
Should blues players be expected to know how to handle a partimento
exercise, a figured bass or writing a fugue with triple counterpoint? Dismissing a blues guitarist for not playing one of Bach’s
two-part inventions would be obviously dubious and yet Iverson’s case, as he’s
made it, simply flips a script. Iverson’s suggestion is simply saying their
music would be better if it took my music more seriously and were
informed more by the musical values of my music. But hasn’t this been precisely the script
used by symphonic musicians to cast aspersion on popular music made by black
American musicians? How is flipping the script rejecting the script?
Ethan Iverson’s prescription is very simple, “Their music would be better if they learned to play my music.” If he means that pop and classical could benefit from synergistic interaction and affection, I agree. If that’s not what he actually meant his prescription risks being, dare I say it, a bit Roger Scrutonish.
POSTSCRIPT:
There are
times when Iverson writes about American popular music in a way that can read
as if he’s nudging and winking to fellow initiates about the things you could
only see if you were part of some mystery cult.
Take these excerpts, which again touch on the recent work of scholars to
highlight the work of Florence Price. These comments from Iverson’s writing
about Philip Ewell’s book:
https://iverson.substack.com/p/tt-257-new-book-by-philip-ewell
…
Masters of American
music know that their art is too esoteric to be written in a book; they know
that trying to explain some basics about the mechanism to the committee is
casting pearls before swine. A whole lot of college professors need to prove
that they are worthy of receiving a few secrets before any of this gets much
better.
The road for respect is
long. Sometimes it feels like we take two steps backward after one step
forward. The last decade has seen the elevation of minor romantic symphonist
Florence Price to something like sainthood in the classical music academy. The
academy thinks it is paying off some dues, but those dues are still waiting to
be paid. Celebrating Florence Price offers little currency in the actual fight
against racism down in the subconscious where it really matters.
I strongly doubt that
any of Price’s recent advocates can sing one Louis Armstrong solo.
In his book, Ewell
discusses Price, of course, but the few pages on jazz are an afterthought.
Indeed, nowhere in On Music Theory does Ewell
mention African-influenced rhythm as a theoretical organizing principle.
…
For the violinists and
the conductors, swinging at the drums will help them play Mozart and Mahler.
Guaranteed. Indeed, new horizons of expression will be right there for the
taking, for there can be a kind of stiffness in classical musicians, a way the beat
can be uptight. Jazz drums teaches the triplet, the luminous three within the
two that is such a marvelous feature of the formal music descended from Mother
Africa. And this also might quell some of the lingering racism in elite musical
institutions, where some of the practitioners still think jazz and other black
music is “easy.” If it’s easy, let’s hear the first violinist and the conductor
play a bit of drums with a decent jazz pianist and bassist.
Knowing basic jazz
drums is a quick fix for a variety of issues. But apart from renovating the
room, an entry-level command of the drum set would unlock new forms of
compositional creativity. What fresh combinations of sounds might appear from
the best and the brightest if our elite ensembles understood rhythm as well as
they understood notation?
This extended excerpt I've quoted is a more overt form of “their music would be more legitimate if they took my music seriously.” It’s in these kinds of paragraphs that Iverson comes off as a flipped script to the paternalism of Roger Scruton. This time around it's the symphonic musicians who aren't worthy of the raw realness of blues and jazz musicians and not the other way around. I made this same point in response to Wesley Morris' 1619 Project piece, flipping the script is not the same as rejecting it outright and rejecting the script outright is what we most seem to need. It's as true on the jazz/blues/rock/country/pop side as it is on the classical music/"serious" music side.
PS
None of this means I won't be blogging about Iverson's sonatas because I really have been enjoying those lately. But sometimes Iverson's writing reminds me that practical musicians would do well to take seriously that the theories we think by become all the more harmful if we've never examined them. As Charles W Mills put it, the theories we least examine that govern our thinking are the ones that most bind us, whether it was in The Racial Contract or Black Rights/White Wrongs escapes me at the moment. That Ewell's book was not an equivalent to the work of Mills' work in political philosophy with respect to music education doesn't mean I have to take the worst account of Ewell's motives. I agree with Iverson that the possibilities of a synthesis of classical forms with the vocabularies of American popular music are worth exploring. I more than agree with that. It's all the glib potshots he feels obliged or entitled to take along the way that I find off-putting.
Saturday, February 08, 2025
a further thought on John Borstlap's simplistic invocation of Schleiermacher as positive and Herder as negative influences in history, dipping a toe into a contemporary discussion of latent Eurocentric and white supremacist elements in Schleiermacher's work
Sunday, December 15, 2024
Ethan Hein on Jason Yust's April 2024 essay on tonality and racism, some belated thoughts on books by Philip Ewell and John Borstlap as etiological narratives
Saturday, April 20, 2024
recently finished reading from Jeremy Begbie and Jason Ananda Josephson Storm
Tuesday, December 19, 2023
two pieces from Current Affairs discussing Philip Ewell's book, some semi-organized thoughts on epistemic trespass that happens when musicians and music theorists opine about religion
...But when people in the United States say “European” music, it’s really just a few places—German-speaking territories, prime among them—and we present it as the way we should think about music. And of course, the idea that pitch, the piano, and 12 tones in a system that emanated—to be blunt—from the Catholic Church is the system that represents all music, that’s kind of what we’ve been teaching. And, of course, colonization: you have to immediately think about the idea of presenting what were essentially white supremacists and patriarchal ideas across the globe in a colonial context. Of course, Christianity played a massive role.
I’m teaching Theory 1 currently, and to just look at all the music theory textbooks, literally last night I thought, Oh, my God, all of these hymns, all of these chorus, all these “Jesus, my pain and suffering”—there’s a lot of Christianity in the music theory textbooks, which I didn’t really dig into in my book. Maybe that’s the next project because that’s what we’re talking about: Catholic traditions morphing into German Protestant traditions of making music.
Sunday, August 27, 2023
a sprawling links for the weekend post, variations on a ground bass--counterpoint under fire in the 1470s. laments about a loss of Catholic liturgical music that was lambasted in the years it was being written, and how fifteen C. musicians defended their jobs at the expense of ordinary musicking people
https://mereorthodoxy.com/musical-localism-and-the-rebirth-of-culture
...
The
ethnomusicologist Thomas Turino has written on this distinction, which he takes
to be more fundamental than any genre distinction, between “participatory” and
“presentational” kinds of music. “If we briefly consider the products of the
music industry over time,” says Turino, “we can glimpse cosmopolitans’ gradual
shift in thinking of music making as a social activity to music as an object.”
He talks about what it was like interacting with Peruvian festival music of the
1980s, before (or athwart) the arrival of the various technologies that have
enabled our presentational era. “For them,” says Turino, “a recording is to
‘music’ what, for us, a photograph is to the person in the snapshot: a
representation of something else, not the real thing.”
It is
worth asking for a moment where and how the change occurred in music. Here I
depart a great deal from other traditionalists and conservatives who talk
extensively about music, particularly the late Roger Scruton, as well as the
various others who have written on the topic such as E. Michael Jones and
Julian Johnson. For many of these thinkers, the moment of decline occurred
somewhere in the twentieth century or perhaps the nineteenth, and the culprit
was, variously, dissonance, a rejection of long-standing norms of form,
professionalism, and, most of all, the rise of commercial recording
technologies that allowed music to become abstracted from live, public
performance.
Here I
am much more radical: Classical music is not the solution to our problems; it
is the problem. I consider the shift from Palestrina to Monteverdi, from Bach
to Haydn, as far more fundamental than the shift from Wagner to Schoenberg or
from tonality to atonality or from Rachmaninoff on shellac to the Beatles on
vinyl.
...
Well, to go by Rob C
Wegman’s The
Crisis of Music in Early Modern Europea 1470 to 1430, classical music,
in the sense of being elite music produced by elite for elites that was
bankrolled by a system of indulgences has always been the problem. I know John Ahern knows about this book because
I discovered it reading a couple of
his blog
posts at Ad Fontes Journal online.
Saturday, August 19, 2023
John Borstlap on the need to define words properly, such as modern and modernism
While throughout his blog and his
comments at Slipped
Disc and in his book The
Classical Revolution he has hinted that he found it a bit
unfortunate Roger Scruton put as much stock as he did by traditional religion,
there are moments when I read John Borstlap write about music, aesthetics and
ideas ... and, if you’ll pardon the joke, I wonder how many neo-Calvinist presuppositionalist
Christian polemics he has read in his life. Bear with me, I’ll explain things
soon enough. I read Borstlap’s blog post from last month in the last few weeks
and will quote all of Borstlap’s text and skip the Krier quotes:
http://subterraneanreview.blogspot.com/2023/07/progressive-conservative.html
In the culture wars concerning modernity and tradition,
concepts like 'modern', 'tradition', 'conservative', 'progressive', 'value' and
so forth, appear to have different meanings in different contexts, with the
result that meaning is often blurred by political motivations in the
background. In fact, their meaning is shifting all the time, and thus become
tools for other meanings which are different from their origins.
Tradition: simply the sum of
successful solutions to problems of aesthetics, practices, value. 'Our heritage
has come down to us without a testament' (René Char), which means: we should
never stop being critical of what we have inherited of our civilisation. This
critical stance is the motor of development and keeps traditions alive and
accessible.
Progress: anything which means an improvement. This is entirely dependent upon
context.
Modern: that which is contemporary, which is 'now'. It is a historical category
and has no meaning as to value.
Modernism: the ideology which has, in the last century, created a world view
which is very different from most of the past, and in which technology, science
and progressiveness for its own sake have taken priority over humanist values
as were developed since the Renaissance. It is a prescriptive ideology (hence
its nature as 'ideology') and often not open to critique, which is discarded as
'conservative'. But attempts to recapture successful solutions to problems,
which have been discarded because of not fitting within a modernist world view,
can be progressive in terms of improvement, when a civilisation has developed
towards extremes which undermine its capacities for development. With
conservatism in the sense of wanting to freeze historic moments, it has nothing
to do. Nothing has done classical music more damage than the misunderstanding
that this art form is a 'conservative' one.
…
Only if notions like modernity, modernism, progress and tradition
are understood in their original and true meaning, can a vision be developed
which offers a perspective on improvement: the only serious meaning of
progress.
Thursday, July 27, 2023
so I got Ewell's book and am looking forward to reading it
Sunday, May 07, 2023
Don Baton reviewed Phil Ewell's book and this hobbyist composer considers a few things about arguments made and not made about tonal, racial and cognitive hierarchical appeals
Don Baton has reviewed Philip Ewell's new book on music
theory education and is not ... positively ... impressed.
Two excerpts of note to me first: ...
The connection between racism in music theorists’ social views and their theoretical frameworks—the part of Ewell’s argument that ought to be the most airtight—turns out to be the flimsiest. In his discussion of early-nineteenth-century French critic and theorist François-Joseph Fétis, Ewell cites Fétis’s opposition to racial miscegenation and his ownership of a book by scientific racist Arthur de Gobineau, but he makes no substantive link to Fétis’s musical theories.Ewell accomplishes little more with his nemesis Schenker, asking us, with a suggestive wink and a nod, whether Schenker’s privately articulated belief in a hierarchy of races and his music theories’ reliance on a hierarchy of tones can possibly be a coincidence. And consider this spectacular non-sequitur: “Schenker believed that the fundamental structure must ‘govern’ and ‘control’ the middle-ground and foreground elements of the music composition. Similarly, Schenker believed that blacks must be governed and controlled by whites.”
Ewell fails to suggest any frameworks that might replace Schenker in the classroom, and he makes no attempt even to prove that Schenker’s theories are analytically unnecessary or unhelpful. The enduring prominence in academia of Schenker and other music theorists like Hugo Reimann arises from their analytical and explanatory power. But the musical knowledge we stand to lose by cancelling (or “decentering”) them seems not to concern Ewell. In one astounding passage, Ewell responds to Jack Boss, a music-theory professor at the University of Oregon who published an article in JSS using Schenkerian techniques to analyze a piano solo by the black jazz pianist Art Tatum. Boss purported to show that Schenker’s analytic insights were by no means limited to white composers, or even to classical music. Providing no evaluation of Boss’s analysis of Tatum, Ewell offers a disconnected rebuke: “Whiteness not only does not honor blackness by applying white-male analytical methods to black music, it does immeasurable harm, since whiteness only profits and benefits itself.” He adds that, by analyzing Tatum, Boss is presuming to “elevate” his music to the realm of the great (white) composers, as if Tatum were not there already by his own merits.
I am reminded that in my reading of Roger Scruton he, the conservative’s conservative philosopher on the aesthetics of music, was openly dismissive of the value of Schenkerian analysis.
https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2020/08/roger-scruton-vs-schenkerian-theory.html
I hesitate to say there’s “no” value to Schenkerian analysis or theory but a lot depends on who is using the theory and to what end. Victor Zuckerkandl’s purple prose remains off-putting but he formulated an idea about musical time and space that George Rochberg extended in his own proposal of thinking of musical time and space in terms of timespace and spacetime and the question of the distinctions and definitions of musical time and space must at some point detain us who have interests in music theory because, well, Adorno claimed that in Stravinsky the “spatialization of music is absolute”. I am not even into Jason Yust’s Organized Time yet but thinking about the nature of what musical time and space are in human cognition is something that, for all his faults, Heinrich Schenker had some ideas.
To restate my point in another way, what Edmund Burke wrote is not the same thing as what William F Buckley or Russell Kirk told us Edmund Burke meant. The reason scholarship will go on is because these kinds of things happen. I would not for one second trust what Ted Gioia claims Augustine of Hippo said about music, having read Hippo’s work in translation myself. Rather than reducing music to “number” Augustine told us that memory is the faculty that is most important for the perception and interpretation and reception of music and number, with all the attendant tedium of neo-Platonic concepts of what it means, is relevant as a way to understand what makes it easier for us to remember. Rhythm and meter are mnemonic aids and catalysts. Augustine wasn’t writing about what we’d call music at all, he was writing about rhythm and poetic rhythm. Hip hop artists who could slog through De Musica might even get the impression that everything Augustine wrote about rhythm in De Musica could be about establishing “flow”. If you want to read through what I’ve written about Augustine and De Musica I think this tag may be handy
https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/search/label/Augustine