http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/11/remorse_judges_and_juries_think_they_can_tell_when_a_defendant_is_sorry.single.html
I think I was like most lawyers, in that I knew emotion played a role in jury trials and the way lawyers made arguments, but I believed that if you were really being rational and logical and rigorous you should put emotion aside. But then I read a couple of Supreme Court cases—one about victim impact statements [which are typically presented as part of the sentencing process], and the other about a young boy who had been very badly beaten by his father and was suing the state of Wisconsin [for allowing it to happen]. In the case of the abused boy, the court said that although it felt compassion for him, compassion had no legitimate role to play in legal decision-making. But then that same year, the court upheld the use of victim impact statements, and I thought, Wait, but victim impact statements are all about evoking compassion!
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People think they know what remorse looks like, and that they can tell just by observing someone’s facial expressions or body language whether they feel remorse or not. They also think remorse is really important when it comes to deciding what kind of punishment someone deserves—in part because they think that a person who is remorseful is less likely to commit another crime, and in part because they think that a remorseful person, or a person who looks remorseful, is someone who has a better character.
But once I started studying remorse, I found that there’s really no evidence at all to support the notion that we actually can evaluate it by looking at somebody. And so it’s a really powerful example of what goes wrong when we don’t face the fact that we are letting emotion—and our assumptions about emotion—affect our legal decisions.
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There’s also just no evidence at all that someone who is remorseful during a trial is less likely to commit another crime. Because even if it’s sincere remorse, many people backslide. Someone might have the best of intentions and just not act on them. It’s also very hard to know whether someone’s apparent remorse is sincere.
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Friday, November 06, 2015
Catanzaro follow up, HealthCoach 7 is up, Health and Wellness Institute site down
for folks who have lost track of things to do with the former doctor/naturopath of Mark Driscoll, whose license was suspended early in 2014 ...
http://www.casewatch.org/board/nat/catanzaro/agreed_order_2014.shtml
the Health and Wellness Institute website is not currently active.
http://hwifc.com/
This site is ...
https://www.healthcoach7.com/about-us/
which corresponds with ...
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dr-john-catanzaro/6/357/b67
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-catanzaro/7/856/90
Whether Catanzaro or Mark Driscoll will ever speak of the other again, well, that may just be a little mystery. If you want to review the history of stuff Driscoll used to say about Catanzaro follow-up reading can be done through the posts with the appropriate tag.
http://www.casewatch.org/board/nat/catanzaro/agreed_order_2014.shtml
the Health and Wellness Institute website is not currently active.
http://hwifc.com/
This site is ...
https://www.healthcoach7.com/about-us/
which corresponds with ...
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dr-john-catanzaro/6/357/b67
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-catanzaro/7/856/90
Physician, Consultant, Educator, Public speaker
HealthCoach7
– Present (4 years 11 months)
Developing program for client interface, Client consulting in personalized genetics and functional medicine. Developing education interface. Public speaking in personalized genetics, epigenetics and functional medicine.
Former: Founder And Ceo
HWIFC Cancer Treatment
– (18 years 1 month)
Whether Catanzaro or Mark Driscoll will ever speak of the other again, well, that may just be a little mystery. If you want to review the history of stuff Driscoll used to say about Catanzaro follow-up reading can be done through the posts with the appropriate tag.
Tuesday, November 03, 2015
It was a year ago yesterday that a whole bunch of guys who were participants in the trials of Meyer and Petry publicly apologized for their role in it except for ... three of the executive elders who insisted on the firings?
http://repentantpastor.com/confessions/letter-confession-bent-meyer-paul-petry/
So a year ago yesterday a whole bunch of guys who were pastors at Mars Hill or close to being pastors signed a letter expressing regret over the terminations and trials of Bent Meyer and Paul Petry.
The letter now reads as follows
Sunday, November 2, 2014
The most conspicuous absences are the names of Jamie Munson, Bubba Jennings, and Mark Driscoll--the other guys who were executive elders at the time of the firings and trials. There's another one but there's such a thing as discretion. That guy wasn't one of the executive elders. What's striking about the letter, a year later, is that practically the entire leadership culture of Mars Hill from 2007 (even the guy who headed up the EIT and the EIT participants) came to view the whole process as a sinful sham ... except for the executive elders themselves.
Mark Driscoll's never apologized for his chuckling comments about the pile of dead bodies behind the Mars Hill bus. He's been willing to complain about how other people steal your stuff when you go into ministry without so much as a word about whether he's had a good idea that wasn't second or third hand since 2013.
To go by his LinkedIn profile lately, Bubba Jennings would just as soon not mention he was ever a pastor at Mars Hill at all, let alone one of the executive elders in power at the time of the 2007 by-laws controversy and the terminations.
Let's not forget what Jamie Munson said about the terminations and trials:
http://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/10-01-2007-email-from-jmunson.pdf
Some might conclude this is a political move to gain more support for the bylaws as Paul and bent were outspoken critics of the current direction. [emphasis added] This is not the case, the executive team wants to conduct itself in a way that is full of integrity, walking in the light, under full disclosure and in a decisive manner that best serves Jesus and His church through Mars Hill. If the bylaws don't pass, so be it, we didn't want to wait on what we had determined were necessary and inevitable firings until after the bylaws had been voted into approval because that would have been deceptive. [emphasis added] We made the decision to terminate them now and givem them the option to resign or undergo the full investigation. We have a higher value of being men of integrity than playing politics to swing a vote in our favor.
Jamie Munson later resigned in 2011, for reasons that have never been explained, from executive leadership at Mars Hill. The memo from Turner leaked to Warren Throckmorton seemed to indicate that at least someone in the upper echelons of Mars Hill executive world considered Munson to be "checked out" and to have left Mars Hill on the brink of financial ruin.
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/files/2014/09/Current-Financial-Situation-March-17-12.pdf
Executive Elders
Current Financial Situation
Saturday, March 17, 2012...
After being at Mars Hill for 10 months and in my current role for 3 months, I now have a picture of a very broken and fundamentally financially unsustainable organization. I am sorry that I have not been able to really see the financial picture of the organization until just this week. So many distractions with A29, Real Marriage, GWOW, distractions with Churches, my Eldership, and a very incompetent staff when I arrived has kept me from not seeing the picture. But now I see the organization very clearly and we have some difficult decisions to make.
One of the greatest and most harmful events was Pastor Jamie resigning and leaving me in this job as General Manager/Executive Elder. From early June until he resigned in August, he had basically checked out. So I had less than 6 weeks as General Manager before becoming #1 King without being an Elder. Then finally in November, I was made an Executive Pastor without have any creditability with the staff. This single fact hindered my ability to really even understand the organization or the people, much less see the problems as they had existed for a long time.
This looks like someone was saying that under Munson's tenure the fiscal incompetence of Mars Hill nearly destroyed the corporation. Now if there's anyone, anyone at all, who would like to contest that accounting of Mars Hill they're welcome to speak up if they don't feel inhibited by the possibility of threats from whatever quarter. Meanwhile, it would appear from the leaked document that someone in the executive leadership scene came to the belief that the leadership culture Munson bequeathed him was ruinously bad.
Which might suggest the possibility that the ... kinda kangaroo court proceedings against Meyer and Petry took them to task for having doubts about the leadership ability of some people who, to go by the leaked memo, had provided some reasons for doubt.
What was striking about that memo, as I've commented on at some length, is that the problems of fiscal risks and a culture of entitlement in the leadership scene were things I had concerns about back around 2009.
If Mark Driscoll Ministries has glided over the history of Mark Driscoll founding or co-founding ministries that die ignominiously or that publicly distance themselves from him or omit mention of him, Jamie Munson presided over a single ministry that has been spending 2015 in a process of dissolution.
So if nearly every man who voted to go with the termination and trials of 2007 (except for a few dudes) has concluded the whole thing was a sinful sham that harmed the local church and damaged the lives of men and their families; men that Mark Driscoll recruited into ministry based on his self-described keen gifts; should that give us all a moment of pause (to put it ever so mildly) about the competencies and spiritual maturity of the guys who, to this day, have not signed on the above-mentioned letter and were part of the executive leadership team that decreed the trials take place?
If Jamie Munson still believes the firings were necessary and inevitable he's welcome to explain himself. It's all the more salient a question what on earth made the terminations and trials necessary and inevitable in the eyes of Mark Driscoll, Jamie Munson and Bubba Jennings as executive elders in 2007 now that fellow former executive elder Scott Thomas signed his name on the letter a year ago yesterday that stated the terminations and trials were sinful mistakes.
So a year ago yesterday a whole bunch of guys who were pastors at Mars Hill or close to being pastors signed a letter expressing regret over the terminations and trials of Bent Meyer and Paul Petry.
The letter now reads as follows
Sunday, November 2, 2014
Dear Paul and Bent, we want to publicly confess our sin against you regarding events that took place at Mars Hill Church back in 2007. We were wrong. We harmed you. You have lived with the pain of that for many years. As some of us have come to each of you privately, you have extended grace and forgiveness, and for that we thank you. Because our sin against you happened in a public way and with public consequences, we want to make our confession public as well with this letter.
On September 30th 2007, you were both terminated from your employment as pastors at Mars Hill Church. Your status as elders of the church was suspended, according to the church’s bylaws at the time, pending an investigation of your qualification for eldership. It’s hard to imagine just how disorienting and painful this experience must have been for you. That night, Bent, you called Mike Wilkerson, your direct supervisor, to let him know that you’d been terminated. Within hours, Paul, you emailed all of the elders to notify us of what had happened to you that night. We had the opportunity and the responsibility to intervene, to care, to listen to you, and to make sure that any harmful treatment against you was corrected. Instead, we allowed the process of your investigation and trial to continue unimpeded and we participated in it. By failing to intervene and by participating in that process without protest, we implied to the members of Mars Hill Church, to each other, and to you and your families that your termination was above reproach. We stood by as it happened, and that was wrong.
We now believe that you were grievously sinned against in that termination. We believe that the termination meeting’s content and tone was abrupt, one sided, and threatening. Hearing each of you recount your experiences of this meeting is shocking and sad. By failing to intervene, we enabled a growing trend of misuses and abuses of power and authority that would be feared and tolerated by the rest of the church’s eldership. We now understand that these sorts of overpowering actions against elders were some of the very concerns that you had each expressed regarding some of the pending proposed changes to the bylaws. It is tragic that you were proved right by your own experiences. The harm permitted by our failure to protect you has had a devastating and lasting impact on you, your families, Mars Hill Church, and the watching world.
Paul, On October 15, 2007, all twenty-three elders at the time—including most of us signers of this letter—voted that you were in violation of the biblical qualifications of eldership. The alleged violations included a “lack of trust and respect for spiritual authority”. All but two of the elders then voted to remove you from eldership based on these perceived violations.
We now believe our decisions were invalid and wrong. The entire investigation and trial process was skewed by the implication that your termination was above reproach and for just cause. If there had been sin in your life that might have warranted a warning about possible disqualification from eldership, we should have patiently, carefully, and directly addressed it with you before the matter became so extremely escalated. By reporting our wrongheaded assessment to the church, we put doubt about your character in the minds of church members, though you had done nothing to warrant such embarrassment and scrutiny. By doing this, we misled the whole church, harmed your reputation, and damaged the unity of the body of Christ.
Bent, On October 29, 2007, all twenty-three elders at the time—including most of us signers of this letter—agreed that you were guilty of “displaying an unhealthy lack of trust in, and respect for, the senior leadership of Mars Hill Church”. We also unanimously approved that, based on your repentance, you would remain an elder of the church on probation.
Bent, we were wrong to have called you guilty of lacking trust and respect for the senior leadership of the church when you had good reasons for challenging the church’s senior leadership. We were wrong to have insisted that you repent of this lacking trust as a condition of your continued eldership, because it was not sinful on your part in the first place.
Bent and Paul, you each had every right as an elder to openly express your strong concerns about the bylaws and to influence our thinking so that we might have made the most informed decision possible. You also had good reason to contact the church’s attorney about those bylaws. These were not sinful acts of mistrust on your part, but reasonable acts of due diligence. We needed to learn from you at that time and we should have trusted you and respected your spiritual authority as elders of the church to educate us about potential problems with those bylaws. Instead, we silenced your voices through our complicity in your terminations and our decisions to remove Paul as an elder and keep Bent on probation instead of examining the issues more closely.
Paul, On December 5th, 2007 those of us who were elders at the time voted to instruct the members of Mars Hill Church to treat you as an unrepentant believer under church discipline after you had resigned your membership from the church. This treatment was to have included “rejection and disassociation” in the hope that you would “come to an acknowledgment of [your] sin and repent.” This instruction was given with the weight of all twenty-seven elders at the time. This disciplinary rejection led to great loss to your family in extreme financial hardship, sudden loss of long standing friendships, spiritual and emotional trauma to your family, and the public shaming of your character. We share responsibility for those losses due to our participation in the vote.
A church disciplinary act of this magnitude is extreme. It’s perhaps the most powerful that can be enacted upon a pastor. We now think that motion was hasty and harmful. We should have challenged the motion rather than approving it. Instead, we used our voting power as elders in a way that resulted in further harm to you. Further, we brought disrepute on the Church and its responsibility to exercise church discipline in a godly, loving and redemptive way. We failed to love you as a fellow elder and brother in Christ.
Confessing our sins against you has been a process that has taken us some time. We have engaged in self-examination, challenged our memories of what happened by reviewing the documents and interviewing one another, and spent time listening to you and your wives tell your heartbreaking stories. Many of us have met personally with each of you over the years to confess our sin and to seek forgiveness for our sinful actions and inaction. We don’t intend to convey by this letter that we are the only elders or former elders who’ve come to similar conclusions, and we hope that in time, the others will join us in public confession. Our desire is to clear the reproach from your names.
We hope that our confession also brings healing to the many past and present members of Mars Hill Church whose hearts were broken for you and your families as a result of our sin. As part of our commitment to walk in repentance, we invite anyone who has been impacted by our sins against you to contact any of us so we can continue to walk in repentance by listening, confessing, and asking for forgiveness.
Paul and Bent, we are sorry for our sinful behavior toward you, for harming you, and for bringing shame to Christ’s church. We hope that you will forgive us. May the peace and grace of our Lord heal our hearts.
Signed,
Mars Hill Elders as of October, 2007
—Scott Thomas
—Dave Kraft
—Gary Shavey
—Steve Tompkins
—Brad House
—Phil Smidt
—Mike Wilkerson
—James Harleman
—Lief Moi
—Adam Sinnett
—Jesse Winkler
—Zack Hubert
—Tim Reber
—James Dahlman
—Dick McKinley
Additional Mars Hill Elders as of December 5th, 2007
—Jon Krombein
—Matt Johnson
—Joe Day
Mark Driscoll's never apologized for his chuckling comments about the pile of dead bodies behind the Mars Hill bus. He's been willing to complain about how other people steal your stuff when you go into ministry without so much as a word about whether he's had a good idea that wasn't second or third hand since 2013.
To go by his LinkedIn profile lately, Bubba Jennings would just as soon not mention he was ever a pastor at Mars Hill at all, let alone one of the executive elders in power at the time of the 2007 by-laws controversy and the terminations.
Let's not forget what Jamie Munson said about the terminations and trials:
http://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/10-01-2007-email-from-jmunson.pdf
Some might conclude this is a political move to gain more support for the bylaws as Paul and bent were outspoken critics of the current direction. [emphasis added] This is not the case, the executive team wants to conduct itself in a way that is full of integrity, walking in the light, under full disclosure and in a decisive manner that best serves Jesus and His church through Mars Hill. If the bylaws don't pass, so be it, we didn't want to wait on what we had determined were necessary and inevitable firings until after the bylaws had been voted into approval because that would have been deceptive. [emphasis added] We made the decision to terminate them now and givem them the option to resign or undergo the full investigation. We have a higher value of being men of integrity than playing politics to swing a vote in our favor.
Jamie Munson later resigned in 2011, for reasons that have never been explained, from executive leadership at Mars Hill. The memo from Turner leaked to Warren Throckmorton seemed to indicate that at least someone in the upper echelons of Mars Hill executive world considered Munson to be "checked out" and to have left Mars Hill on the brink of financial ruin.
http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/files/2014/09/Current-Financial-Situation-March-17-12.pdf
Executive Elders
Current Financial Situation
Saturday, March 17, 2012...
After being at Mars Hill for 10 months and in my current role for 3 months, I now have a picture of a very broken and fundamentally financially unsustainable organization. I am sorry that I have not been able to really see the financial picture of the organization until just this week. So many distractions with A29, Real Marriage, GWOW, distractions with Churches, my Eldership, and a very incompetent staff when I arrived has kept me from not seeing the picture. But now I see the organization very clearly and we have some difficult decisions to make.
One of the greatest and most harmful events was Pastor Jamie resigning and leaving me in this job as General Manager/Executive Elder. From early June until he resigned in August, he had basically checked out. So I had less than 6 weeks as General Manager before becoming #1 King without being an Elder. Then finally in November, I was made an Executive Pastor without have any creditability with the staff. This single fact hindered my ability to really even understand the organization or the people, much less see the problems as they had existed for a long time.
This looks like someone was saying that under Munson's tenure the fiscal incompetence of Mars Hill nearly destroyed the corporation. Now if there's anyone, anyone at all, who would like to contest that accounting of Mars Hill they're welcome to speak up if they don't feel inhibited by the possibility of threats from whatever quarter. Meanwhile, it would appear from the leaked document that someone in the executive leadership scene came to the belief that the leadership culture Munson bequeathed him was ruinously bad.
Which might suggest the possibility that the ... kinda kangaroo court proceedings against Meyer and Petry took them to task for having doubts about the leadership ability of some people who, to go by the leaked memo, had provided some reasons for doubt.
What was striking about that memo, as I've commented on at some length, is that the problems of fiscal risks and a culture of entitlement in the leadership scene were things I had concerns about back around 2009.
If Mark Driscoll Ministries has glided over the history of Mark Driscoll founding or co-founding ministries that die ignominiously or that publicly distance themselves from him or omit mention of him, Jamie Munson presided over a single ministry that has been spending 2015 in a process of dissolution.
So if nearly every man who voted to go with the termination and trials of 2007 (except for a few dudes) has concluded the whole thing was a sinful sham that harmed the local church and damaged the lives of men and their families; men that Mark Driscoll recruited into ministry based on his self-described keen gifts; should that give us all a moment of pause (to put it ever so mildly) about the competencies and spiritual maturity of the guys who, to this day, have not signed on the above-mentioned letter and were part of the executive leadership team that decreed the trials take place?
If Jamie Munson still believes the firings were necessary and inevitable he's welcome to explain himself. It's all the more salient a question what on earth made the terminations and trials necessary and inevitable in the eyes of Mark Driscoll, Jamie Munson and Bubba Jennings as executive elders in 2007 now that fellow former executive elder Scott Thomas signed his name on the letter a year ago yesterday that stated the terminations and trials were sinful mistakes.
the stories that aren't told in the story that's told, comparing what Mark Driscoll Ministries says for Driscoll's ministry-starting legacy compared to what's been said about him by said ministries, the ones that still exist anyway
Sometimes a story is interesting for what it leaves out.
http://markdriscoll.org/about/
Pastor Mark Driscoll is a Jesus-following, mission-leading, church-serving, people-loving, Bible-preaching pastor. In 2010, Preaching magazine named him one of the 25 most influential pastors of the past 25 years. He’s grateful to be a nobody trying to tell everybody about Somebody.
Pastor Mark is the author of many books, including; A Call to Resurgence, Who Do You Think You Are, and Real Marriage. He has also written for CNN, Fox News, and The Washington Post, and has been featured as a columnist for The Seattle Times.
With a skillful mix of bold presentation, accessible teaching, and unrelenting compassion for those who are hurting the most—particularly women who are victims of sexual and physical abuse and assault—Pastor Mark has taken biblical Christianity into cultural corners rarely explored by evangelicals. He has been grilled by Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters on The View, gone head-to-head with Piers Morgan on CNN, debated the existence of evil with Deepak Chopra on ABC’s Nightline, bantered with the gang on Fox and Friends, and explained biblical sexuality on Loveline with Dr. Drew.
Various ministries trace their roots to Pastor Mark’s leadership. Mars Hill Church began as a Bible study he and his wife Grace taught in their home. He is also the founder of Resurgence, a ministry that offers resources for Christian leaders, including books, events, classes, multimedia, and a blog. He is the co-founder of the Acts 29 Network, which has planted over 400 churches in the US and 13 other nations. In 2010, following a cataclysmic earthquake in Haiti, Pastor Mark helped found Churches Helping Churches . The organization raised $2.7 million in funds and delivered an additional $1.7 million in medical supplies to the devastated country.
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A couple of things. We may want to start these in reverse order.
For Churches Helping Churches Driscoll had some connection to it. there's a letter to peruse if you wish over here
http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/charities/search/detail.jsp
http://www.harvestbiblechapel.org/10780/content/content_id/440659/Churches-Helping-Churches-About
If you go click on the button indicating 2012 financial statement ... item not found.
http://www.harvestbiblechapel.org/itemnotfound.aspx?1
There's perhaps some mention of Mark Driscoll's essential role in the foundation and continued existence of Churches Helping Churches somewhere and you're welcome to go looking for it.
The ministry/charity still seems to exist, though, which is a bit more than can be said about Mars Hill or its membership in Acts 29. For those who forgot, Acts 29 gave Mars Hill the boot from membership in the organization Mark Driscoll says he helped put together. Why? Mark Driscoll's unrepentant sin was apparently the explanation.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2014/august/acts-29-removes-mars-hill-asks-mark-driscoll-matt-chandler.html
On Friday, Acts 29 cited similar concerns in removing Driscoll and Mars Hill from its membership, stating it "leaned on the [BOAA] to take the lead in dealing with" controversies related to Driscoll, but "no longer believe[s] the BOAA is able to execute the plan of reconciliation originally laid out." [CT previously reported below on Acts 29's full statement.]
Exemplary right up until October 16, 2014? And where is Mars Hill today? In dissolution.
Well, hey, Mark Driscoll did step down from ministry. He stepped down from ministry after he says he agreed to submit to a restoration plan proposed to him by his board but, hey, he stepped down, didn't he?
Good luck finding this
http://www.acts29network.org/acts-29-blog/a-message-from-the-board-of-acts-29-concerning-mark-driscoll-and-mars-hill-church/
Because it bumps to another page now.
But with a little help we can see what the leadership of Acts 29 had to say about Mark Driscoll about a year ago ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20141019015416/http://www.acts29network.org/acts-29-blog/a-message-from-the-board-of-acts-29-concerning-mark-driscoll-and-mars-hill-church/
August 8, 2014
It is with deep sorrow that the Acts 29 Network announces its decision to remove Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church from membership in the network. Mark and the Elders of Mars Hill have been informed of the decision, along with the reasons for removal. It is our conviction that the nature of the accusations against Mark, most of which have been confirmed by him, make it untenable and unhelpful to keep Mark and Mars Hill in our network. In taking this action, our prayer is that it will encourage the leadership of Mars Hill to respond in a distinctive and godly manner so that the name of Christ will not continue to be dishonored.
The Board of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network
Matt Chandler
Darrin Patrick
Steve Timmis
Eric Mason
John Bryson
Bruce Wesley
Leonce Crump
So while the leadership of A29 wasn't willing to say what Driscoll was accused of they seemed pretty confident Driscoll in essence confirmed the legitimacy of the accusations, or that's how it reads now. Or would, if A29 had kept the statement up. Good luck finding even one word about Mark Driscoll at A29 these days. While Driscoll seems willing to share how he co-founded Acts 29, it doesn't seem as though Acts 29 is particularly eager to return the favor.
So if Churches Helping Churches exists and Acts 29 Network publicly burned bridges with Mars Hill as a whole and Mark Driscoll in particular, what about The Resurgence? Well the low-key death spiral of the Resurgence Training Center was something of a mystery clouded in non-talk but The Resurgence content, well ...
http://theresurgence.com/
Thank you for visiting the theresurgence.com.
Mark Driscoll Ministries recently purchased The Resurgence and all of its assets in a public auction conducted by a law firm. We are excited to reestablish this site, but it will be some time before we are able to catalogue and determine what will happen with the content. In the meantime, if you would like the latest information on The Resurgence and Pastor Mark Driscoll please visit
http://markdriscoll.org. The site contains his latest Bible teaching, speaking calendar, and an option to sign up for weekly updates via the newsletter. You can also follow @pastormark on twitter.
Which public auction? Maybe you were able to attend it, dear reader.
It will be interesting to see what material, if any, from Mark Driscoll's good friend and pastorly doctor John Catanzaro may make it up on to the re:vived Resurgence platform.
So at this point there isn't a re:surgent Resurgence just yet. The ministries that Mark Driscoll has publicly mentioned playing a hand in starting don't exist or have even publicly repudiated him. Mars Hill Church? It only exists in a pro forma way as a kind of holding company according to one of its former executive elders. And the leadership of Mars Hill even expressed regret that the possibility of a restoration process for Mark Driscoll was cut off by Driscoll's resignation.
As for those interview highlights, why doesn't Mark Driscoll Ministries highlight the most significant interview of his career? You know, that one with Janet Mefferd.
http://markdriscoll.org/about/
Pastor Mark Driscoll is a Jesus-following, mission-leading, church-serving, people-loving, Bible-preaching pastor. In 2010, Preaching magazine named him one of the 25 most influential pastors of the past 25 years. He’s grateful to be a nobody trying to tell everybody about Somebody.
Pastor Mark is the author of many books, including; A Call to Resurgence, Who Do You Think You Are, and Real Marriage. He has also written for CNN, Fox News, and The Washington Post, and has been featured as a columnist for The Seattle Times.
With a skillful mix of bold presentation, accessible teaching, and unrelenting compassion for those who are hurting the most—particularly women who are victims of sexual and physical abuse and assault—Pastor Mark has taken biblical Christianity into cultural corners rarely explored by evangelicals. He has been grilled by Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters on The View, gone head-to-head with Piers Morgan on CNN, debated the existence of evil with Deepak Chopra on ABC’s Nightline, bantered with the gang on Fox and Friends, and explained biblical sexuality on Loveline with Dr. Drew.
Various ministries trace their roots to Pastor Mark’s leadership. Mars Hill Church began as a Bible study he and his wife Grace taught in their home. He is also the founder of Resurgence, a ministry that offers resources for Christian leaders, including books, events, classes, multimedia, and a blog. He is the co-founder of the Acts 29 Network, which has planted over 400 churches in the US and 13 other nations. In 2010, following a cataclysmic earthquake in Haiti, Pastor Mark helped found Churches Helping Churches . The organization raised $2.7 million in funds and delivered an additional $1.7 million in medical supplies to the devastated country.
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A couple of things. We may want to start these in reverse order.
For Churches Helping Churches Driscoll had some connection to it. there's a letter to peruse if you wish over here
| 27-1747541 | Churches Helping Churches | Elgin | IL | United States |
http://www.illinoisattorneygeneral.gov/charities/search/detail.jsp
| CHURCHES HELPING CHURCHES | |
| Reg. Number: | 01057885 |
| EIN: | 271747541 |
| Reg. Date: | 02/17/2010 |
| Address: | 1000 NORTH RANDALL ROAD ELGIN IL 60123 |
| County: | Kane |
If you go click on the button indicating 2012 financial statement ... item not found.
http://www.harvestbiblechapel.org/itemnotfound.aspx?1
There's perhaps some mention of Mark Driscoll's essential role in the foundation and continued existence of Churches Helping Churches somewhere and you're welcome to go looking for it.
The ministry/charity still seems to exist, though, which is a bit more than can be said about Mars Hill or its membership in Acts 29. For those who forgot, Acts 29 gave Mars Hill the boot from membership in the organization Mark Driscoll says he helped put together. Why? Mark Driscoll's unrepentant sin was apparently the explanation.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2014/august/acts-29-removes-mars-hill-asks-mark-driscoll-matt-chandler.html
On Friday, Acts 29 cited similar concerns in removing Driscoll and Mars Hill from its membership, stating it "leaned on the [BOAA] to take the lead in dealing with" controversies related to Driscoll, but "no longer believe[s] the BOAA is able to execute the plan of reconciliation originally laid out." [CT previously reported below on Acts 29's full statement.]
Meanwhile, the two remaining external members of Mars Hill's BOAA—chairman Michael Van Skaik and Larry Osborne, a multisite pioneer and president of the North Coast Training Network—on Friday defended the board's ability to oversee Driscoll, stating, "We are making real progress in addressing the serious reconciliation and unhealthy culture issues that have been a part of Mars Hill Church for way too long."
Another BOAA member who last month announced his resignation from the board (pending a replacement being selected), James MacDonald, also defended Driscoll, stating that he "found [Driscoll] to be exemplary in his current readiness to live under the BOAA oversight."
Exemplary right up until October 16, 2014? And where is Mars Hill today? In dissolution.
Well, hey, Mark Driscoll did step down from ministry. He stepped down from ministry after he says he agreed to submit to a restoration plan proposed to him by his board but, hey, he stepped down, didn't he?
Good luck finding this
http://www.acts29network.org/acts-29-blog/a-message-from-the-board-of-acts-29-concerning-mark-driscoll-and-mars-hill-church/
Because it bumps to another page now.
But with a little help we can see what the leadership of Acts 29 had to say about Mark Driscoll about a year ago ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20141019015416/http://www.acts29network.org/acts-29-blog/a-message-from-the-board-of-acts-29-concerning-mark-driscoll-and-mars-hill-church/
August 8, 2014
It is with deep sorrow that the Acts 29 Network announces its decision to remove Mark Driscoll and Mars Hill Church from membership in the network. Mark and the Elders of Mars Hill have been informed of the decision, along with the reasons for removal. It is our conviction that the nature of the accusations against Mark, most of which have been confirmed by him, make it untenable and unhelpful to keep Mark and Mars Hill in our network. In taking this action, our prayer is that it will encourage the leadership of Mars Hill to respond in a distinctive and godly manner so that the name of Christ will not continue to be dishonored.
The Board of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network
Matt Chandler
Darrin Patrick
Steve Timmis
Eric Mason
John Bryson
Bruce Wesley
Leonce Crump
So while the leadership of A29 wasn't willing to say what Driscoll was accused of they seemed pretty confident Driscoll in essence confirmed the legitimacy of the accusations, or that's how it reads now. Or would, if A29 had kept the statement up. Good luck finding even one word about Mark Driscoll at A29 these days. While Driscoll seems willing to share how he co-founded Acts 29, it doesn't seem as though Acts 29 is particularly eager to return the favor.
So if Churches Helping Churches exists and Acts 29 Network publicly burned bridges with Mars Hill as a whole and Mark Driscoll in particular, what about The Resurgence? Well the low-key death spiral of the Resurgence Training Center was something of a mystery clouded in non-talk but The Resurgence content, well ...
http://theresurgence.com/
Thank you for visiting the theresurgence.com.
Mark Driscoll Ministries recently purchased The Resurgence and all of its assets in a public auction conducted by a law firm. We are excited to reestablish this site, but it will be some time before we are able to catalogue and determine what will happen with the content. In the meantime, if you would like the latest information on The Resurgence and Pastor Mark Driscoll please visit
http://markdriscoll.org. The site contains his latest Bible teaching, speaking calendar, and an option to sign up for weekly updates via the newsletter. You can also follow @pastormark on twitter.
Which public auction? Maybe you were able to attend it, dear reader.
It will be interesting to see what material, if any, from Mark Driscoll's good friend and pastorly doctor John Catanzaro may make it up on to the re:vived Resurgence platform.
So at this point there isn't a re:surgent Resurgence just yet. The ministries that Mark Driscoll has publicly mentioned playing a hand in starting don't exist or have even publicly repudiated him. Mars Hill Church? It only exists in a pro forma way as a kind of holding company according to one of its former executive elders. And the leadership of Mars Hill even expressed regret that the possibility of a restoration process for Mark Driscoll was cut off by Driscoll's resignation.
As for those interview highlights, why doesn't Mark Driscoll Ministries highlight the most significant interview of his career? You know, that one with Janet Mefferd.
links from here and there
As someone who tried getting into Optic Nerve decades ago and couldn't, it's terribly gratifying to see a contributor at Hooded Utilitarian explain why Adrian Tomine has shown himself to be a capable but disappointing one-trick pony. If you're into Tomine, hey, cool, but I'm perfectly happy to stick with Rumiko Takahashi as a matter of preference. If it's a choice between Optic Nerve and Ranma 1/2 or Maison Ikkoku then Optic Nerve always loses.
Some laments on how academic writerly conventions make bad writers of writers who could have been good.
http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2013/05/what-writing-has-taught-me-about-composing.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/10/complex-academic-writing/412255/
Somewhat thematically related ... a case against subtlety.
Carl Trueman proposes that the slim inbred gene pool of The Gospel Coalition and company
http://www.mortificationofspin.org/mos/postcards-from-palookaville/when-gene-pools-are-somewhat-skinny#.VjeiTmeFO70
... First, the major organizations involved in spearheading the movement, such as TGC, Desiring God and the CBMW, tend to have significant overlap in top leadership personnel. This makes problems in one branch of the movement less likely to be critiqued by others. Silence on key issues is easier to maintain when different groups share a common pool of leadership. They thus have both a vested interest in that silence and a means of enforcing it: a virtual monopoly on the trusted media outlets where such critique might appear, and a powerful framework for keeping discipline among the lower orders -- platform patronage and jobs for the boys. Break ranks and you lose your potential place at the table/conference/blog/bookstore.
Second, the powerful personality-driven nature of the movement also makes it hard for the rank-and-file to offer criticism. Over recent decades, psychologists have noted a strange phenomenon relative to some financial scams: when people have invested so much in them, it becomes virtually impossible for them to stop giving money, even when they know they are scams, because the emotional cost of accepting that fact is simply too high a psychological price to pay. It seems that a similar thing happens in religious movements when people invest in a particular organization or person: what has been notable about the various scandals surrounding the YRR is not that these have led the rank-and-file to a more sober and modest assessment of the movement’s leadership but that they have frequently generated even more passionate uncritical devotion to the cause, as anyone who has ever dared blog a criticism will know.
Oh boy, do we have some shared understanding on that point. :)
Perhaps the saddest thing for me in my area is that after a few years of blogging about the problems I had with how Mars Hill leadership approached the interpretation of scripture and their doctrinal stances nobody cared, yet when I began to document the parade of real estate acquisitions and the associated upward trajectories of the men who ended up in ministry after playing roles in those real estate acquisitions, well, suddenly leaders at Mars Hill wanted to know who Wenatchee The Hatchet was and wanted to reach out. But I left on wonderful terms with my campus pastor, who I still consider a dear friend and a brother in Christ. So I didn't exactly have a big reason to just go meet with leaders I'd never met before wanting to talk to me about blog posts about real estate and intellectual property.
Seen the theory about Jar Jar Binks? Well, a fun piece at Slate (sometimes that still happens) ...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/11/02/darth_jar_jar_theory_it_s_ridiculous_but_it_says_a_lot_about_how_star_wars.html
...
But to propose that Jar Jar was an evil genius, one has to accept that Lucas himself was a genius as well. Lumpawarroo portrays the director as a master manipulator, subtly planting almost unnoticeable details into battle scenes and dialogue sequences alike. In his auteurish ingenuity, he somehow managed to do so without letting the armies of animators and designers who worked on the films realize what he was up to. If you believe this narrative, Lucas was far subtler, and far more devious, than anyone realized, even as he remained almost comically clumsy. Lumpawarroo thereby leaves us with Schrödinger’s Lucas, a creature suspended in creative superposition, simultaneously brilliant and foolish.
But in reality, George Lucas has always been a good-natured idiot who stumbled into something larger than himself, screwing it up along the way but still getting to join in the celebration when it’s all over. This is, of course, also the role that Jar Jar plays throughout the prequel trilogy.
Ultimately, the Darth Jar Jar theory tells a story about fan desire. Almost accidentally, Lumpawarroo touches on this very point, writing, “If you are able to somehow change the nature of Jar Jar from embarrassing idiot to jaw-dropping villain, suddenly the entire prequel trilogy must be seen in a new light.” Appropriately, it’s “you”—you the viewer, you the fan—who has to make the change here. We embrace theories like Lumpawarroo’s because we love Star Wars, and because we want it to be good. But of course it has always been the fans that have made Star Wars great, perfecting it with their devotion.
I.e. Star Wars is a great big blank slate upon which we can read our judgments of ourselves and others.
I have this idea incubating about the difference between text, subtext and metatext in Star Wars but it might be a while before I get to writing it.
Some laments on how academic writerly conventions make bad writers of writers who could have been good.
http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2013/05/what-writing-has-taught-me-about-composing.html
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/10/complex-academic-writing/412255/
Somewhat thematically related ... a case against subtlety.
Carl Trueman proposes that the slim inbred gene pool of The Gospel Coalition and company
http://www.mortificationofspin.org/mos/postcards-from-palookaville/when-gene-pools-are-somewhat-skinny#.VjeiTmeFO70
... First, the major organizations involved in spearheading the movement, such as TGC, Desiring God and the CBMW, tend to have significant overlap in top leadership personnel. This makes problems in one branch of the movement less likely to be critiqued by others. Silence on key issues is easier to maintain when different groups share a common pool of leadership. They thus have both a vested interest in that silence and a means of enforcing it: a virtual monopoly on the trusted media outlets where such critique might appear, and a powerful framework for keeping discipline among the lower orders -- platform patronage and jobs for the boys. Break ranks and you lose your potential place at the table/conference/blog/bookstore.
Second, the powerful personality-driven nature of the movement also makes it hard for the rank-and-file to offer criticism. Over recent decades, psychologists have noted a strange phenomenon relative to some financial scams: when people have invested so much in them, it becomes virtually impossible for them to stop giving money, even when they know they are scams, because the emotional cost of accepting that fact is simply too high a psychological price to pay. It seems that a similar thing happens in religious movements when people invest in a particular organization or person: what has been notable about the various scandals surrounding the YRR is not that these have led the rank-and-file to a more sober and modest assessment of the movement’s leadership but that they have frequently generated even more passionate uncritical devotion to the cause, as anyone who has ever dared blog a criticism will know.
Oh boy, do we have some shared understanding on that point. :)
Perhaps the saddest thing for me in my area is that after a few years of blogging about the problems I had with how Mars Hill leadership approached the interpretation of scripture and their doctrinal stances nobody cared, yet when I began to document the parade of real estate acquisitions and the associated upward trajectories of the men who ended up in ministry after playing roles in those real estate acquisitions, well, suddenly leaders at Mars Hill wanted to know who Wenatchee The Hatchet was and wanted to reach out. But I left on wonderful terms with my campus pastor, who I still consider a dear friend and a brother in Christ. So I didn't exactly have a big reason to just go meet with leaders I'd never met before wanting to talk to me about blog posts about real estate and intellectual property.
Seen the theory about Jar Jar Binks? Well, a fun piece at Slate (sometimes that still happens) ...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2015/11/02/darth_jar_jar_theory_it_s_ridiculous_but_it_says_a_lot_about_how_star_wars.html
...
But to propose that Jar Jar was an evil genius, one has to accept that Lucas himself was a genius as well. Lumpawarroo portrays the director as a master manipulator, subtly planting almost unnoticeable details into battle scenes and dialogue sequences alike. In his auteurish ingenuity, he somehow managed to do so without letting the armies of animators and designers who worked on the films realize what he was up to. If you believe this narrative, Lucas was far subtler, and far more devious, than anyone realized, even as he remained almost comically clumsy. Lumpawarroo thereby leaves us with Schrödinger’s Lucas, a creature suspended in creative superposition, simultaneously brilliant and foolish.
But in reality, George Lucas has always been a good-natured idiot who stumbled into something larger than himself, screwing it up along the way but still getting to join in the celebration when it’s all over. This is, of course, also the role that Jar Jar plays throughout the prequel trilogy.
Ultimately, the Darth Jar Jar theory tells a story about fan desire. Almost accidentally, Lumpawarroo touches on this very point, writing, “If you are able to somehow change the nature of Jar Jar from embarrassing idiot to jaw-dropping villain, suddenly the entire prequel trilogy must be seen in a new light.” Appropriately, it’s “you”—you the viewer, you the fan—who has to make the change here. We embrace theories like Lumpawarroo’s because we love Star Wars, and because we want it to be good. But of course it has always been the fans that have made Star Wars great, perfecting it with their devotion.
I.e. Star Wars is a great big blank slate upon which we can read our judgments of ourselves and others.
I have this idea incubating about the difference between text, subtext and metatext in Star Wars but it might be a while before I get to writing it.
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