Showing posts with label Augustine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Augustine. Show all posts

Sunday, August 23, 2026

Ethan Hein on how AI is harmful to learning (specifically musical learning) and I am reminded that Augustine of Hippo said that our ability to reason and our capacity for memory are essential to musical art

https://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2026/ai-is-harmful-for-learning-which-is-why-im-banning-it-in-my-classes/

Academic integrity is not my main motivation for the AI ban. It’s a factor, but it’s not the main thing. The main thing is that I want to help these students learn, and using AI is directly harmful to learning. Common sense says that prompting ChatGPT doesn’t have the same learning benefits as doing the reading and writing yourself, but if you need something more robust than common sense, here’s a sampling of the research literature.

There are two basic reasons for this and to make these clear I’m going to go way back to Augustine of Hippo’s ancient, uncompleted treatise De Musica.

Tuesday, March 03, 2026

Ethan Hein remixes "Dreams" across a dozen other works to illustrate harmonic/melodic divorce in popular song, and I can't resist making a response song about Charles Rose would likely say the rumblings of that divorce go as far back as Hector Berlioz and the divorce papers sure got signed by the time of Phil Collins era divorce-ballads

https://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2024/the-melodic-harmonic-divorce-in-pop/

https://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2025/what-key-is-dreams-by-fleetwood-mac-actually-in/

https://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2026/what-i-learned-from-remixing-dreams-over-and-over/

https://ethanhein.substack.com/p/twelve-remixes-of-dreams-by-fleetwood

 

Dropping the vocal stem of Fleetwood Mac's "Dreams" on to the instrumental tracks of "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees sounds good.  It does also sound very funny.

 

Dropping the vocal line over Bach's legendary Prelude in C major from Book I of the Well-Tempered Clavier also worked quite well.  All the remixes are worth hearing not just for their novelty but as a way to underline Ethan Hein's blogging thread about the emergence of harmonic/melodic divorce in popular music.  Now if Charles Rosen were still alive he might have been tempted to clear his throat and say that the first rumblings of harmonic/melodic divorce were beginning to happen with the music of Hector Berlioz centuries ago.  Yeah, yeah, if you actually like the music of Berlioz and I kind of don't but point taken. And now I will digress, as I so often do.


Now I do have a thought about what is actually very important in Hein's remixes and what they have to do with music.  The most significant power in creating musical connections and developing musical possibilities is memory.  The intrinsic relationship between working memory and musical perception and interpretation goes at least as far back as Augustine of Hippo (whose De Musica is available in English translation at archive.org now). I have been very critical of Ted Gioia for his use and misuse of Augustine's complex and mercurial thoughts about music for some time now. Part of the complexity of Augustine's thoughts on music come from the simple fact that he wrote Books I-V of De Musica before his conversion to Christianity while Book VI was written after he had become a Christian. The good news for non-Christians who blanche at the prospect of reading one of the most famous Christian thinkers in history is that Books I-V don't discuss Christian doctrine at all for previously stated reasons. The bad news is that De Musica is regarded as one of the most punishingly tedious treatises on anything from antiquity.  Augustine himself realized it was so painfully dull that he opened Book VI with an apology for how genuinely boring everything he wrote in Books I-V actually was!


Modulating well is what the science of music was for Augustine and by "modulating" was not meant "changing keys".  Since everything in the treatise was about poetic rhythm in Latin poetics "modulation" is best thought of in rhythmic terms.  To put this in terms that may be clearer to hiphop than other styles of music, you could say that Books I-V were where Augustine established the scientific principles of establishing a flow.  Those concepts are by and large unfamiliar to me but I have friends who are into hiphop and rap and have explained the basic idea in theory and practice.  Part of my aversion to Gioia's handling of Augustine is how the Christian saint becomes symptomatic of the Greek of Greeks when he needs to be the emblem of "Pythagorean" music and thus a bad guy, but when Gioia wanted to question whether there was even such a thing as "Western" harmony he abruptly remembered Augustine was one of the great Christian bishops of Africa.  Right ... that's why I can't take Ted Gioia seriously when he so obviously moves goalposts. Augustine's thought is complex and remains controversial and it's more fair to him historically to not try to simplify him down to one or another side of a glib Substackified dualisms.


So, the thing about memory and music is that juxtaposition and rhythm are significant.  Hein's experiments show that it is possible to reconceive melodic materials in shifting harmonic and rhythmic contexts.  This is only possible if he you have refined your powers of associative memory to the point where you can drop a Stevie Nicks vocal over the instrumental tracks of a song by the Bee Gees.  Leveraging associative memory for musically expressive purposes is what Johann Sebastian Bach did when he created a fugal first movement for the Credo of his Mass in B minor by using the incipit of the ancient plainchant as the subject of his fugue. Once we consider that the fugal subject is the incipit of the Credo then this could be considered one of the more epic sample flips in "classical music", to go back to a post Ethan Hein did called "fugue as sample flip". Ethan Hein and I have gone back and forth about fugue as sample flip in the past and I feel like a chump for not thinking of the Credo from Mass in B minor as a sample flip earlier. 

 

The paradox of Stevie Nicks' vocal fitting so readily over a Johann Sebastian Bach prelude is that 18th century music tends to be so contrapuntal the prospect of such a juxtaposing working is surprising.  The juxtaposition totally works but that is what a "textbook" approach to classical music cultivated since the long 19th century would tell you isn't supposed to happen and shame on you for thinking it!  But those kinds of juxtapositions, as we have just heard and seen via Bach's Mass in B minor, were what happened in actual 18th century practice. But there is a sense in which the Mac/Bach mash-up comes off as a surprise because harmony and melody in Western theory and practice was very married and, if we just run with Bach's life and times as a jokey analogy, had twenty kids where the family resemblances were not hard to see.  As a friend of mine in college once joked, fifteen generations of Bachs had a penchant for sounding similar. 


Temporal disjunction as a basis for musical exploration has been going on for a long time.  In the 20th century we could look at something like George Rochberg's Caprice Variations for solo violin on a theme by Pagannini. The 1970s was an interesting era in both classical music and rock/pop because of the different kinds of experiments in musical code-switching that were going on.  I had a somewhat short (for me) reflection how George Rochberg's landmark string quartets from the 1970s were composed around the same time Stevie Wonder wrote "Living for the City" and both American composers can be heard and interpreted as experimenting with code switching, how to shift pitch vocabularies mid-work.  I think overall Wonder's song has had more staying power but my point is that we've been living in an era in which, as Leonard Meyer put it, not everyone is going to like the same music but democracy should ensure everyone is free to like whatever they like. 


So it can be useful to study popular song where the divorce between harmony and melody has been firmly established since Kramer vs. Kramer.  Back in the days of Berlioz, to keep running with the gag, harmony and melody were a little out of sync and maybe spent a lot of time in separate rooms of the same house,  but neither was actually consulting with divorce attorneys yet and the divorce papers were definitely not finalized.   By the time Phil Collins showed up with his 1980s era divorce-pop harmony and melody were most assuredly living “Separate Lives”. Some forty years on I think we could say that Phil Collins (love him or hate him or whatever) became one of the maestros of the divorce pop song. 


You might find the humor groan-worthy but I don't care any more.  You listening?  I don't care any more!  

Thursday, September 26, 2024

Augustine's De Musica is up at archive.org

Having strongly disagreed with what I regard as Ted Gioia's bad faith and incompetent handling of the writings of Augustine I'd be remiss to not highlight that, thanks to achive.org, you can now read the public domain English translation of De Musica from the 1940s.

Augustine apologized early in Book VI for the tedious slog that was Books I through V.  Apology accepted!  Just because De Musica is regarded, rightly, as one of the most tedious and punishingly technical treatise on poetic rhythm and meter in the music of Latin poetry anyone bothered to write doesn't mean we should not attempt to read it for ourselves if we can manage that, whether hamstrung by translation or able to read the Latin.  What I have discovered in my decades of reading is you simply can't trust a guy like Ted Gioia to give you a competent or honest appraisal of Augustine's thought.  Better to consult Carol Harrison instead. 


Saturday, July 27, 2024

The Bad Faith of The Honest Broker (on the sham dualisms in Ted Gioia's rhetoric)

When I started reading Ted Gioia’s work years ago it was initially through his trilogy of books on Work Songs, Love Songs and Healing Songs.  I got around to his writings on jazz and blues and found that more interesting. I also read Music: A Subversive History and that has been the point past which I have found it increasingly impossible to take him seriously.  I still read him, though, because he is a lucid writer and in part because I may have a weakness for feeling obliged to keep track of the pronouncements of men given to pat and patently dubious dualisms.

 

There can be any number of tells that you’re reading the work of a fan of dubious dualisms. One of them can be a sweeping invective against an entire category of people that moves to discussing someone’s life and work who, on closer inspection, might not easily fit into the category introduced in the initial ad hominem. Such is what we find from The Honest Broker in the following:

https://www.honest-broker.com/p/a-2000-year-old-argument-over-the

 

Economists have strange opinions about musicians. For example, Adam Smith claims in The Wealth of Nations (1776) that music ranks among the “most frivolous professions.”

At different points in his book, he compares musicians to buffoons and prostitutes. Even slackers who can only make the head of a pin get more respect from him.

Mr. Smith especially hates opera singers—which is interesting, because they were the most highly paid performers in those days. During the 18th century, opera singers earned more than the most successful composers.

So Smith pursues a strange view of economics. He loves the marketplace—except when it rewards musicians.

He insists, contrary to all evidence, that a song must be worthless because it “perishes in the very instant of its production.” In other words, a transformative musical experience possesses no value, no matter how powerful.

And it’s not just Adam Smith who thinks so. Even today, some economists will tell you that music has no economic value.

 

The sheer bad faith of Ted Gioia’s polemics in his Substack blogging impress me, not positively, but they do, at least, impress me.

 

That eighteenth century philosophers had a low view of music was the norm rather than the exception.  Calling Adam Smith an economist for the sake of an ad hominem introduction without situating him in his time is, by now, fairly boilerplate rhetoric from Gioia, which is unfortunate. As careful as he can be about blues and jazz history he reliably proves himself feckless on many other topics.

 

In the past Ted Gioia painted Augustine of Hippo as some terrible guy whose De Musica reduced music to numbers in Music: A Subversive History, an exemplar of the worst traits of the Pythagorean impulse in music.  Then in a Substack post he’d abruptly remember that Augustine of Hippo was a North African Christian bishop and adduce from that that Western harmony has roots in Africa.   You’d never know De Musica was one of the first great treatise on music from Gioia’s book because he presented it in his book as something bad but when he needs or wants to make a flamboyant rhetorical point about Western harmony being influenced by non-European writers and thinkers all of a sudden Augustine’s influence is taken for granted as both salutary and formative.  I’ve read De Musica. There’s a reason Augustine apologized in Book VI for the punishing tedium of the writing in Books I through V!  An academic edition of the Latin text of De Musica editor Martin Jacobson had no qualms writing that Augustine’s work is considered a historically important but punishingly tedious and technical treatise.

 

Whereas Gioia hand-waved away Augustine’s treatise as reducing music to number and being part of the big bad Pythagorean anti-magic take on music I found the treatise tedious but also promising.  Augustine took as given that music exists in performance but we perceive it and understand it with our memory. Rather than pull a Roger Scruton and dispense with Augustine’s thoughts as informed by a cosmology that has been discredited by science I suggest that we take the half-way good ideas in Augustine’s thought which tell us that music and cognition are intertwined. In an era in which we can even discuss proprioception and the ways in which the senses interact with the brain a potential neo-Augustinian retrieval based on using his ideas about memory and musical perception rather than neo-Platonic or neo-Pythagorean cosmologies could potentially show us that Augustine’s De Musica still has some potentially helpful ideas to give us.

 

Additionally (HT to Phoenix Preacher contributor Dr. Duane Arnold for this) Carol Harrison’s work on Augustine’s evolving thought about music would be vastly more worth your time than anything Ted Gioia has said about him even if you have doubts about Augustine as philosopher, theologian and thinker.  Ted Gioia’s Augustine is essentially a sock puppet for whatever point he wants to make at exactly the time of the point he’s making.  I now suggest that Gioia has pulled  a similar stunt with the work of Adam Smith. Even if we take as given that Adam Smith was an “economist” the fact that an eighteenth century philosopher might have doubts about how powerful and sublime music actually was can be considered normative among philosophers and humanists going back a few centuries before anyone began to talk about ‘economics”.

 

There were doubts about the possibility that music had “timeless value” going back to the fourteenth through seventeenth centuries. The core problem music had was that it existed for so long as it was performed.  Once the performance was over the music was over.  It might be likened (and was) to the beautiful smell of a beautiful flower.  Music without text was music that had no propositional content and displayed no mimetic capacity.  In eras in which the capacity of an art to mimic nature was prized music was going to be found wanting, and so it was.  If you want to read about the shift from the eighteenth to nineteenth centuries in European philosophy with respect to music being weak or strong for lacking mimetic content there’s a book you can get.

 

The Emancipation of Music from Language: Departure from Mimesis in Eighteenth-Century Aesthetics

John Neubauer

https://archive.org/details/emancipationofmu0000neub/page/n5/mode/2up

https://www.amazon.com/Emancipation-Music-Language-Eighteenth-Century-Aesthetics/dp/0300035772

 

Leading humanists from the fourteenth through sixteenth century regarded music with skepticism. It was a discipline that called for a huge amount of time, attention, physical training and for all those demands of the discipline it was tough to justify musical training when that was “all” the trained musicians had to offer in most cases. They were not advancing any scholarly disciplines and were not of use to the societies of their day in other respects.  The most beautiful piece of music was not like a work of architecture, a painting, a sculpture, a well-researched book.  A musical work such as a dance lingered in the room much like a fart and dissipated in a similar way.

 

A dense but valuable survey of humanistic and ecclesiastical skepticism about music was published years ago.

The Crisis of Music in Early Modern Europe, 1470--1530

By Rob C. Wegman

https://www.routledge.com/The-Crisis-of-Music-in-Early-Modern-Europe-1470--1530/Wegman/p/book/9780415964746

Right off the bat Ted Gioia impugns economists as implicitly inimical to the value of music when it was the leading humanists and philosophers (and not just clergy) of fourteenth through eighteenth century Europe who had some doubts about the value of music if “timeless verities” or the capacity to emulate Nature was concerned.

But what does that matter?  Gioia has a point to keep making:

So we shouldn’t be surprised that the CEO of Spotify recently made a claim very similar to Adam Smith’s. He insisted that the cost of making music is “close to zero.”

But here we encounter the same contradiction that undermines Smith’s view. Many musicians tell me that they need to spend ten thousand dollars or more to release a professional recording.

So how can music cost nothing if it requires so much investment (and I’m not even counting the time involved in practice and developing mastery of a musician’s craft)?

I have a different view of the value of music. I believe music is a source of enchantment and a change agent in human life. So in my economics, a song can possess great value.

I suspect that many of you feel the same.

Naturally Gioia has to go back to ancient Greece to see how they “solved” the problem of whether music was precious or worthless.  At this point I am going to skip Gioia’s take on Plato and the Greeks because he’s moving to a foregone conclusion:

In other words, songs aren’t just means to an end—like a manufacturing process—but are complete in themselves. Just by existing, they do something magical, even without proving their exchange value in a marketplace.

As such, they rank higher than any mere consumer product, destined to be used up (and hence not achieving remembrance).

This is how I perceive music. This is probably how many of you cherish music, too.

Anybody who loves music, knows how powerful these songs are. They really are like drugs—Plato wasn’t wrong in comparing them to intoxication. Aristotle wasn’t wrong in claiming that they are dangerously exciting.

The effects of drugs wear off.  That does not make drugs of no value but it does mean, to stick with the analogy Gioia has offered, people keep going back to get a new fix.  As the use of drugs go not all drugs and medications are good for you.  It was because philosophers regarded the impact of music as both evanescent and yet real in its moment that they expressed doubt about the long-term value of music and reservations about the kinds of things people would do while listening to music.  If a doctor prescribes the wrong kind of drug to a patient it harms them. The use of music in the workplace to blunt the tedium of any number of jobs would fit into Ted Gioia’s work on work songs, for instance. Muzak has a use, however mildly it registers as a kind of social and market narcotic. 

 

Gioia is not unusual in trafficking in glib dualisms but he is unusual in the zeal with which he presents his dualisms as the only options in writing about music. His rhetoric depends on the most sublime rather than the most quotidian examples he can find. Would Gioia say there’s something intoxicating about “Baby Shark”? How about the hold music you listen to waiting for a customer service representative to talk to you about an order?  What about hold music while waiting on the phone to set up an appointment?  I remember a day when I was on hold and the music I heard while being put on hold was Kind of Blue.  Gioia can go on all he wants about the magic and power of music and write as though the corporate suits and economists don’t know the value of music.  So what?  I could hear “So What?” as hold music over the course of my life and Miles Davis’ music can have all its magic and verve used to be a substitute for abject silence while I’m waiting for someone to talk to me about something.

 

The bad faith lurking within Gioia’s dualism is he pins all the magical power he believes music has on the music itself and not on the plethora of social, cultural and literally ritual contexts within which music has historically had a role. Let’s do a thought experiment.  Suppose that Mahalia Jackson singing “Take My Hand Precious Lord” is used as hold music (may it never be so but work with me here). Would hearing her singing as hold music effect you the same way it would as watching her and hearing her sing the same song at Martin Luther King Jr’s funeral?  No and I would think the reason is too obvious to have to point out. That Ted Gioia can’t factor these kinds of contextual ritual variables into his dualism suggests he thinks like a corporate suit even when he’s attempting to inveigh against corporate suits.  His wind-up is to this pat dualism, the kind of rigid either/or he has made his bread and butter at his Substack for years:

We have two camps, and you really need to pick a side:

(1) The dominant view in the economy treats music as something of little consequence or value. You shouldn’t even have to pay a penny to hear it. And if it can be replaced by an AI track—or even a podcast or twerking video or some other form of ‘content’—that’s perfectly fine. That’s because musicians don’t create sufficient value to deserve better treatment.

Or you can align yourself with the other view:

(2) Music is our most trusted pathway into a world of beauty and enchantment. It transforms our lives in a way that everyday products of consumption can’t replicate. And even though it is intangible, it endures longer than these consumer goods. At the end of your life, you will still turn to your beloved songs for comforts, long after other products have worn out and lost their value.

Guy L Beck would probably say that Ted Gioia is an advocate of the idea that music is a Window that opens up to a divine realm.  If you’ve never heard of Guy Beck I’m telling you about Beck right now.

https://sunypress.edu/Books/M/Musicology-of-Religion

Musicology of Religion: Theories, Methods, and Directions

By Guy L. Beck

Hardcover : 9781438493114, 368 pages, May 2023

Paperback : 9781438493107, 368 pages, November 2023

 

Beck summarized two ways of approaching music and explaining it, with the central metaphors being that music is a Window and that music is a Mirror.  The Window of music is what Ted Gioia endorses, it is seen as his most trusted pathway into a world of beauty and enchantment; it transforms his life in a way that other things can’t. It is “timeless”.  It is literally magical.  The Mirror, by contrast, reflects the world around it.  Art is a Mirror in general but music is viewed as a mirror that reflects the means of production and can tell educated people about the base and the superstructure of given cultures.  Unsurprisingly the Mirror metaphor is preferred by sociologists and critical theorists and anthropologists who are hesitant to endorse the Window because in order to believe in the Window version of music you kind of have to affirm some supernal realm toward which music could be that Window which you can see through or which can be opened. 

 

The way Beck approaches the history of musicology, however, is more coherent, competent and responsible than the glib dualisms Ted Gioia keeps selling his readers via Substack. In our day Ted Gioia’s blogging about music via Substack may be the single easiest example to choose of what Philip Stoltzfus described as the vice of most neo-Orphic partisans of music, a propensity to peddle the glibbest of glib dualisms predicated on surmises about gender, sex, race, ethnicity, class and so on.

 

Because I reject the dualism Gioia presents as being historically, philosophically and literarily irresponsible and dubious I don’t have to pick a side in his would-be fight.  I would be better off thinking about whether Wolverine could beat Batman in a fight. Or I could wonder whether Brock Samson could stand the slightest chance in a fight against Ranma Saotome or Yor Briar. Would Emperor Palpatine be able to defeat Sakura, Lum and Shinobu in a scenario fight?  All of those are pure fantasy fights but more plausible on their own absurdist terms than the two camps Gioia says we have to choose between.  Clearly he’s over-egged the pudding to the point where the only “real” and “moral” decision to make is the one he’s been trying to lead you by the nose to favor through his essay.

 

The problem is that the dualism Ted Gioia presents is a sham.  If he knows his two camps constitute a false dichotomy he can't honestly call himself The Honest Broker.  If he doesn't know his dualism is a house of cards the problem still stands. After all, the most honest broker in the world can still, honestly, sell you junk bonds.


Saturday, March 13, 2021

Tuning is for Killjoys: Ted Gioia's pejorative take on Pythagoras and Augustine in Music: A Subversive History

Music: A Subversive History

Ted Gioia

Basic Books, Hachette Book Group

Copyright © 2019 by Ted Gioia

ISBNs: 978-1-5416-4436-6 (hardcover), 978-1-5416-1797-1 (ebook)

 

More than ever, we need a subversive history of music. We need it both to subvert the staid accounts that misrepresent the past as well as to grasp the subversive quality inherent in these catalytic sounds in our own time. This book aims to provide that alternative narrative. But the goal isn’t to be iconoclastic or controversial. I have no interest in adopting a provocative revisionist pose so I can stand out from the crowd. I simply want to do justice to the subject. I want to tell the story of music as a change agent, as a source of disruption and enchantment in human life.  

 

I started work on an alternative approach to music history more than twenty-five years ago, but back then I didn’t realize the scope of what I would uncover. My starting point was much simpler than where I ended up. My core belief back then—unchanged today, so many years later—was that music is a force of transformation and empowerment, a catalyst in human life. My curiosity was piqued by the many ways songs had enhanced and altered the lives of individuals throughout history, and especially the great masses of people who don’t get much visibility in surviving accounts.  I didn’t exclude kings and lords, or popes and patrons, from my purview. But I was perhaps even more interested in peasants and plebeians, slaves and bohemians, renegades and outcasts. What did their music sound like? Even better, what did it do?

 

… My aim is to celebrate music as a source of creation, destruction, and transformation. I affirm songs as a source of artistry, but will also insist on taking them seriously as a social force and conduit of power, even as a kind of technology for societies that lack microchips and spaceships. I want to cast light on the neglected spheres of music that survive outside the realm of power brokers, religious institutions, and social elites, and explore how songs enrich the day-to-day lives of small communities, families, and individuals. Above all, I hope to show how music can topple established hierarchies and rules, subverting tired old conventions and asserting bold new ones. 

Ted Gioia’s would-be subversive history of music is the most conventional wisdom an American historian of jazz and blues could have written.  Gioia believes that music is magical and has the power to shake things up and that music, when it taps into what he regards as its shamanistic powers, can heal people and, according to the ancient Greek figure Empedocles, raise the dead.  Gioia has read the history of American popular styles of music pioneered by African Americans as a synecdoche for the history of music the world over and molded the rest of music history to fit that American mythology.

Tuesday, March 02, 2021

John Ahern at Theopolis Institute on how Calvin's view of music was more positive than you might have heard, and less ambivalent than Augustine's

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On the one hand, Calvin agrees with Augustine that music is subservient to the ends of the text. This is plain from his comment that music is a “help” to the wandering mind. Music is, in Lutheran terminology, a sermon on, an exegesis of, the text. Calvin may have a positive view of music, but he would be no fan of the ideology Beethoven, Hanslick, Nietzsche (or, dare I say, Roger Scruton) applied to church music. Even Calvin’s positive principle of music is, I believe, totally incompatible with “absolute, autonomous art music” in an ecclesiastical setting. (In the same vein, Calvin would, I wager, have little patience for the organist who insisted that their flowery introductions were “their own act of worship” and so ought to override the pragmatic concerns of congregational worship. Just so we’re clear.)

On the other hand, though, Calvin clearly paints music as some sort of alarm clock on our noetic failings. So Calvinist music should be anything but dull. And, indeed, as originally composed and performed, it wasanything but dull—it wasn’t for nothing that Calvinist psalm settings were called “Genevan jigs.” I think Calvin’s positive view of music can be used to endorse some kind of Christian musical maximalism: yes, music is subservient to the text, but that does not mean that it is meant to be backgrounded. It is subordinate in a hierarchy of ends, but not necessarily in a hierarchy of means and certainly not of perception. Music might well need to shout at us to get us to hear. Like Flannery O’Connor’s vision of the good Catholic writer, the good Calvinist musician must “make your vision apparent by shock—to the hard of hearing you shout, and for the almost-blind you draw large and startling figures.”[3]

So, if we agree with Calvin’s principle, we should be more comfortable with Josquin’s chaotic polyphony than Palestrina’s tidy counterpoint (certainly Luther was). Perhaps we should be happier with Olivier Messiaen’s dissonant, screaming organ sketches than Widor’s frilly Victorian organ symphonies. Possibly even happier with a hard rock rendition of Psalm 2 or a Lecrae track than the soothing sounds of Chris Tomlin’s mic held ever-so-close to the mouth. I would judge that our approach to the text is better served in the former of each of these pairs. The overly familiar text is made strange and unfamiliar. And that is just what we need, lest we draw near to God with our lips but not our hearts. I don’t merely mean to defend an ugly aesthetic, but perhaps to place music less in the category of “aesthetic” altogether, and in a category more consonant with ancient thought, that of “rhetoric”. Music should speak intelligibly and prophetically in order to be edifying, just as Paul says in I Corinthians 14.

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and I can well imagine Jim West, if he read the piece, wondering why Zwingli didn't get mentioned. :) 

Friday, February 26, 2021

Augustine defined music as "the science of mensurating well", but he also built social and cultural context into his definition of music

On Music
The Fathers of the Church: A New Translation (Volume 4)
Augustine, translated by Robert Catesby Taliaferro
Copyright © 1947 by Ludwig Schopp
ISBN-10 : 0-8132-1319-3
ISBN-13 : 978-0813213194

On Music
BOOK I
Page 172
M. Music is the science of mensurating well. Doesn’t it seem so to you?
 
D. It might seem so, if it were clear to me what mensuration is.
Page 173
M. Don’t let this disturb you, that, as you just said, in all things made, music included, measure must be observed, and yet that this is called mensuration in music.   …
 
M. For you to understand that mensuration can regard music alone, while measure, from which the word is derived, can also be in other things. In the same way diction is properly attributed to orators, although anyone who speaks says something, and diction gets its name from saying.  …
 
Page 174
M. Then, mensuration is not improperly called a certain skill in moving, or at any rate that by which something is made to move well. For we can’t say anything moves well unless it keeps its measure.
Pages 175-176
M. Music is the science of moving well. But that is because whatever moves and keeps harmoniously the measuring of times and intervals can already be said to move well.  For it is already pleasing, and for this reason is already properly called mensuration. Yet it is possible for this harmony and measuring to please when they shouldn’t.  For example, if one should sing sweetly and dance gracefully, wishing there-by to be gay when the occasion demanded gravity, such a person would in no way be using harmonious mensuration well. In other words, that person uses ill or improperly the motion at one time called good because of its harmony. And so it is one thing to mensurate, and another to mensurate well. [emphasis added]
Ever since I read Ted Gioia's Music: A Subversive History I have been reminded of how there are people who have felt obliged to sound off on Augustine's treatise.  Paul Hindemith, at least, summarized what was actually in De Musica in the lectures that became Hindemith's book A Composer's World: Horizons and Limitations, but even his summary was a bit idiosyncratic.  Hindemith may have misunderstood aspects of Augustine's treatise but he didn't foundationally misrepresent what was going on in the book.  Gioa's bid at a history of music has reminded me that when it comes to popular level descriptions of what Augustine did and didn't say about music there are much worse historical and historiographical takes on Augustine than Hindemith's, Gioia's being most prominent. 

Friday, February 12, 2021

Augustine's De Musica, Book VI--the necessity of having followed the tedium of Books I-V to understand why all those numbers are significant in terms of human cognition

Now we can finally get to the more famous final book of Augustine's treatise, having seen at least some of what books I-V were discussing.  Someone like Ted Gioia can get hung up on the mere fact that numeri show up in Augustine's treatise without, it seems, remembering why Augustine had his master and disciple discuss where those numbers were perceived and how that is significant.  It's no surprise that a post-Pythagorean and post-Platonic thinker like Augustine would turn toward number but we can see, from what I quoted earlier from the first five books, that Augustine's interest was in things like mobile and immobile meters and in the last book we get to the matter of the minds that are able to perceive the numbers in the flow of a poetic or musical rhythm.

Thursday, February 11, 2021

excerpts from Augustine's De Musica (Books I-V), his never-finished treatise on music--proposing that Augustine's discourse on poetic rhythm could correspond to "flow" in hiphop if music historians stop using him as a punching bag (hint, Ted Gioia)

The single most important problem with Ted Gioia's Music: A Subversive History with respect to Augustine of Hippo is he never quotes Augustine. He also never mentions that  Augustine's treatise on music was never finished. Augustine is merely collapsed into Gioia's patently pejorative take on Pythagoras and the entirety of all Pythagorean and quasi-Pythagorean or neo-Pythagorean conceptions of music as Gioia takes them to be over the last 2,500 years.  Well, let's at least quote Augustine and associated scholarship to give people a chance to decide what they think.  Just because we might not endorse a post-Pythagorean neo-Platonic cosmology in which the divinely ordered cosmos is full of musical resonance that can be replicated or imitated in human music doesn't mean we can't at least disagree with Augustine for what he says rather than by way of some person telling us what to think about Augustine without ever quoting him.  

Thursday, February 04, 2021

Mere Orthodoxy has a review up of Ted Gioia's Music: A Subversive History that contests his pejorative take on Pythagoras and Augustine


The review has a deliberately narrow focus, contesting Gioia's pejorative take on Pythagoras and the Pythagorean legacy in Western music by way of pointing out that Pythagorean cosmology was abandoned as far back as the sixteenth through seventeenth centuries and referencing Roger Scruton and Daniel Chua's work as evidence. The other focus of the review is on Gioia's even more pejorative take on Augustine's never-finished treatise De Musica.  

I've been thinking of posting excerpts from De Musica here at Wenatchee The Hatchet for a while.  I was telling some friends of mine who are hip hop fans that having read Augustine's unfinished treatise dealing with the rhythm and meter of poetry that if we wanted to try seeing how Augustine's actual writings might be relevant to contemporary music that Augustine's self-admittedly tedious and pedantic discourse on poetic rhythm and meter and pulse best corresponds to the concept of "flow" in hip hop.  

We don't have to agree with everything Augustine wrote about music, or anything for that matter, but if we're going to do any kind of history or historiography on Augustine on the subject of music we need to accurately present what Augustine did and didn't say; that's something Ted Gioia completely failed to do in Music: A Subversive History.

The review, by the way, doesn't just make a case for why Gioia's book has problems by way of Pythagoras and Augustine, it also commends Kyle Gann's The Arithmetic of Listening, which debunked Gioia's myths and misrepresentations regarding the Pythagorean legacy in Western music and is a great read on the history of tuning systems ... and which was also published five weeks before Gioia's book.  Gann's book is magnificent and you should go read it!  I do enjoy reading Gioia but I enjoy reading Gioia even when I think he's completely wrong!  But if you have to pick just one book between Gioia's and Gann's go for Gann's, especially if you want to learn anything at all accurate about the ancient Greeks and their debates about tuning.  The Gann book really is wonderful.