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Now it doesn't just so happen if you look up the book on Google books and find the "Limited Preview" version you can read the entirety of Michael Heiser's foreward to Mark and Grace Driscoll's spiritual warfare self-help manual published in 2019. Since I own a physical copy I can just transcribe a bit. I haven't gotten around to reading Heiser's work beyond about 15% into any given of his books but I saw quickly how much he drew upon work by Archie T. Wright, Loren Stuckenbruck and Annette Yoshiko Reed among others. I'm more in a Graham Twelftree phase and Andrew Bowie's writing on philosophy lately, so Heiser's on one of a few back burners. Still, this seemed something to share for the record:
Win Your War: Fight in the Realm
You Don’t See For Freedom in the One You Do
Mark and Grace Driscoll
Charisma House
Copyright © 2019 by Mark and Grace Driscoll
LCCN 2019022514 (print) LCCN 2019022515 (ebook)
ISBN 9781629996257 (hardback) ISBN 9781629996264 (ebook)
Foreward by Michael S. Heiser pages xxiii-xxv
As a Biblical scholar I'm prone to read only
scholarly works produced under peer review and highbrow academic publishers.
The focus of my own work for both the academy and the person in the pew has
largely been the supernature worldview of the Bible. Consequently, when I was
approached by Mark to read the manuscript of Win Your War, I was drawn
out of my scholarly bubble by the twofold goal he and his wife, Grace, sought
to accomplish in the book: to convince Christians that they need to embrace the
reality of the supernatural world and to process every area of the Christian
life (every personal "war") in accord with that belief.
The implication, of course, is that being conformed
to the image of Christ involves more than the daily struggle to turn from
self-destructive behavior, character flaws, and human evil. It also means believing
that there are intelligent evil forces at work that not only impede the process
of our growth in becoming more like Jesus but seek to manipulate our thinking
and behavior to undermine our joy and usefulness to God. In short, God has
enemies, and His enemies are our enemies--and they are not passive.
This may sound odd to some readers. How does it make
sense to tell Christians that they need to embrace the supernatural? Don't
Christians believe in God, that Jesus was God in the flesh, and that God the
Holy Spirit resides within? Don't they believe what happened on the cross
supernaturally resulted in the forgiveness of sin and everlasting life to all
who believe that God sent Jesus for those purposes?
The answer put for by Mark and Grace is
straightforward, For many Christians, belief in the supernatural ends with the
points of doctrine noted above. Affirming the reality of intelligent evil the
way it is portrayed in the Bible--where supernatural agents of darkness
actively participate in misdirecting our thoughts and behavior to
self-destruction, unbelief, and apathy--isn't on the table for many Christians
in the modern Western world, driven by "enlightenment" rationalism.
The unfortunate reality is that many Christians are selectively
supernatural in their outlook, a stance that not only denies biblical authority
on a range of ideas but anesthetizes believers as to what's really happening to
them and their churches on social, cultural, and geopolitical levels. Most
believers don't realize that demons occupy a low status in the pecking order of
supernatural darkness. It's no accident that the Book of Daniel incudes
supernatural intelligences in the operations of empires (Daniel 10's
"princes"). It's also no coincidence that Paul's vocabulary for
intelligent evil (rulers, principalities, powers, thrones, etc.) follows
suit--the terms are common ones for geographical dominion.
This is not to endorse a cartoonish view of spiritual
warfare, a term that has become a buzzword in certain circles of
Christianity. Mark and Grace are not finding demons under every rock (not every
church, corporate, or governmental board). While they refer to some truly
strange supernatural incidents in their lives, they are quite clear from the
outset that Win Your War is not about baptizing Hollywood's portrayals
of the supernatural. Biblically speaking (and when we discuss supernatural
darkness we should indeed be speaking biblically) warfare should not be defined
as soliciting angels, engaging in shouting matches with supernatural powers, or
blaming our failures on demons. Rather, spiritual warfare is fundamentally
about the conflict between two kingdoms, a conflict within and without for
every true Christian whether he or she discerns that or not. Followers of Jesus
win their spiritual war when they spready the gospel, protect the gospel
against false teaching, and live out the gospel by becoming more conformed to
the loving, sacrificial character of Jesus.
Not surprisingly, these things are encapsulated in
the last words of Jesus before He ascended to heaven (Matt. 28:18-20). It
follows, then, that these are the things the supernatural powers of
darkness fear, for they grow the kingdom of God and are the catalyst for the
Lord's return. As the apostle Paul so eloquently noted, when the gospel spreads
to the nations, the moment of the kingdom's consummation draws closer (Rom.
11:25-27); cf. Gal 3:7-9, 26-29). Believers weren't tasked by Jesus with
"ghost-busting" in His name. We are instead supposed to be making
disciples of all nations. But doing that requires each of us to be a useful and
effective believer. The powers of supernatural darkness are on the clock, and
they know it. We must win our spiritual war to do our part. This is why we face
supernatural opposition.
Win Your War is a pastoral plea that needs to
take hold in the hearts and minds of serious believers in every church that
preaches the gospel. My hope is that Win Your War will prod readers
toward realizing that the powers of darkness are real and that they work to
influence our thinking and behavior to distract us from fulfilling--and
enjoying--our lives in Christ and our kingdom tasks.
--Dr. Michael S. Heiser
PhD, Hebrew Bible and Semitic Studies
Executive Director, Awakening School of Theology and Ministry
Author, The Unseen Realm, Angels, AND Supernatural
If you
are not already familiar with mark Driscoll’s post-Mars Hill resignation books
I’m not going to get you up to speed.
Charting the theological trajectory of Mark Driscoll in the last eleven
years it not the primary point here.
Heiser’s
account was that Mark Driscoll sent him a manuscript copy of the book that
became Win Your War. Mark Driscoll’s take on Genesis 6:1-4 in 2005 was
substantially different from the take he had after reading Michael Heiser’s
work. Driscoll referred to the idea that
angels and humans had sexual relations and begat offspring as the “seed of
Chucky” theory from the pulpit back in the Genesis series from 2005. At the risk of pulling the eyewitness
testimony move, I remember this because I was attending Mars Hill at the
time. I knew Augustine wrote that this
was a widely held belief about how to interpret Genesis 6 but that the
interpretation had fallen into disfavor.
I knew Driscoll had read Augustine so his “seed of Chucky” quip struck
me as unbalanced and glib with regard to scholarship on an obviously debated
biblical passage.
Fast forward twenty years later and, as you can see, people at the Theopolis Institute have been having a round table discussing the late Michael Heiser’s work.
What
jumped out for me about Heiser’s foreward commending Mark and Grace Driscoll’s
book is that there’s no indication Heiser met the Driscoll’s and no indication
he had any idea that just a few years earlier in 2014 there were a variety of
scandals swirling around Mark Driscoll about plagiarism; the use of
ResultSource to rig a #1 place on the New York Time bestseller list; objections
made public about Driscoll’s abusive and domineering leadership style; or
concerns about the disbursement and use of funds in Mars Hill Global. There’s no sign that Heiser was familiar with
any of that. If he was busy reading and
writing work in peer-reviewed contexts then this may be a sign of how really peripheral
Mark Driscoll had always been if Michael Heiser was approached by Driscoll and
gave no evidence of having ever heard of him before.
That might,
at least, be a potential explanation for how and why Heiser was unfamiliar with
the scandals connected to Driscoll and by 2021 former Mars Hill pastors stated
for the record they believed Mark Driscoll was unrepentant and showed himself
unfit for pastoral ministry.
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This
was a point that had already been expressed somewhat by Acts 29 leaders when
they urged Mark Driscoll to step down, although that has since been scrubbed off
Acts 29 websites.
Earlier
this year Robert Morris pled guilty to indecent acts against a child. I
asked how it was that Mark “I see things” Driscoll didn’t see “that” about his
one-time friend Robert Morris. Michael
Heiser is no longer alive and so he isn’t around to answer a question that, nevertheless,
can and should be asked, for an author who wrote so much about the unseen realm
and supernatural realities not visible to the naked eye, how did Heiser manage
to not be aware of Mark Driscoll’s history of controversy? Perhaps we could merely guess that an Abiathar
can support an Adonijah now and then and not necessarily be an altogether bad
guy. But Heath Henning has contended
that Heiser’s teachings are aberrant and errant and because Heiser went to the
trouble of writing and endorsing foreward to a post-Mars Hill resignation Mark
Driscoll book, specifically Win Your War, I think it’s fair to ask how
much practical discernment Heiser had even without raising any claims to the
effect that the late Michael Heiser qualified as some kind of false teacher.
My skepticism about varieties of Christian nationalism from evangelical conservatives and liberal mainline Protestants is pretty equal. The latter dread the influence of the former precisely because the Protestant and mainline denominations threw in with pax Americana and American expansion across the 19th and 20th centuries and dread the prospect of a 21st century dominated by evangelical or charismatic/Pentecostal types with views of spiritual warfare that can feature a Paula White being a spiritual advisor to President Trump.
So at a practical level just saying Heiser had some bad ideas that shouldn't be adopted proves nothing in itself about the life lived. Doug Wilson can keep gushing about R L Dabney's prophetic wisdom and vision but Dabney's white supremacism was still what it was, for instance, and we've had eight No Quarter Novembers and hardly a word from Wilson about the Mark Driscoll he said he still liked in 2014. Having met the man myself some twenty-five years ago I really believe that the Mark Driscoll of 2005 would regard the Mark Driscoll of 2023 to the present as dangerously misguided and a charismaniac of the worst sort.
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Mark and Grace Driscoll
Charisma House
Copyright © 2019 by Mark and Grace Driscoll
LCCN 2019022514 (print) LCCN 2019022515 (ebook)
ISBN 9781629996257 (hardback) ISBN 9781629996264 (ebook)
Foreward by Michael S. Heiser pages xxiii-xxv
--Dr. Michael S. Heiser
PhD, Hebrew Bible and Semitic Studies
Executive Director, Awakening School of Theology and Ministry
Author, The Unseen Realm, Angels, AND Supernatural
Fast forward twenty years later and, as you can see, people at the Theopolis Institute have been having a round table discussing the late Michael Heiser’s work.
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My skepticism about varieties of Christian nationalism from evangelical conservatives and liberal mainline Protestants is pretty equal. The latter dread the influence of the former precisely because the Protestant and mainline denominations threw in with pax Americana and American expansion across the 19th and 20th centuries and dread the prospect of a 21st century dominated by evangelical or charismatic/Pentecostal types with views of spiritual warfare that can feature a Paula White being a spiritual advisor to President Trump.
So at a practical level just saying Heiser had some bad ideas that shouldn't be adopted proves nothing in itself about the life lived. Doug Wilson can keep gushing about R L Dabney's prophetic wisdom and vision but Dabney's white supremacism was still what it was, for instance, and we've had eight No Quarter Novembers and hardly a word from Wilson about the Mark Driscoll he said he still liked in 2014. Having met the man myself some twenty-five years ago I really believe that the Mark Driscoll of 2005 would regard the Mark Driscoll of 2023 to the present as dangerously misguided and a charismaniac of the worst sort.
One of the things that is also worth noting is that there is a distinction to be made between what people say about Heiser's work and seeing how it can (and has been) actually get used by other authors. Mark Driscoll asked Heiser to review a manuscript and credited Heiser with changing his mind about how to interpret Genesis 6:1-4 but there was little in Win Your War that broke new ground on Mark Driscoll's ideas about spiritual warfare that he articulated in a four-hour session in February 2008 that I mostly transcribed years ago.
David E Ritchie, on the other hand, drew upon the work of Michael Heiser and others to argue that all forms of nationalism in general and Christian nationalism of the January 6, 2020 variety in particular, can and should be regarded as demonic.
I have actually read that book and he's written a very earnest case that all forms of nationalism have a demonic element to them. I don't even disagree, actually. All the political theology in the world doesn't address the question of whether the prince of Persia in the Book of Daniel can be saved. Whatever faults people find with Walter Wink's work he already charted out how powers and principalities could/can refer to earthly empires, seats of authority and spiritual forces behind the scenes.
That Heiser's work got Driscoll to change his mind doesn't necessarily say anything about Heiser's work. It tells us that Mark Driscoll is prone to the kinds of all-or-nothing either/or thinking that he prizes.
Now something that doesn't come up in the Heiser conversation which should come up is that the gap between what academic theologians say about "the unseen realm" and what is popularly believed at the lay level has always differed for centuries. Francis Young has written histories on exorcism in Anglican and Catholic practice and has pointed out that more people are seeking exorcism now in Catholic and Anglican settings the world over than ever before and the clergy are more reluctant than ever to grant or accede to those requests, preferring to steer people to formal counseling and taking up exorcism as a literal last resort. The world is not more disenchanted now than it was before, whether because of Weber's thesis or because fewer people believe angels and demons exist. Jason Ananda Josephson Storm has a whole book about this called The Myth of Disenchantment: Magic, Modernity, and the Birth of the Human Sciences. He made two simple points in a somewhat long and daunting book:
1) more people believe in supernatural powers, forces and persons now than ever before both because there are literally more people on the planet and because they didn't stop believing in this stuff just because it's a rote notion in the academy that Weber's disenchantment thesis has been "proven"2) the entire field of "human sciences" has had partisans eager to sweep under the rug the pervasive interest in the occult held by pioneers in the social sciences (Carl Jung was merely one of the more obvious and unavoidable examples). Reckoning with where the human sciences can go "from here" needs to take seriously what the Euro-American academic mainstream has been scrupulously trying to ignore for the whole history of fields like psychology and sociology (and it's not the replication crisis, which Andrew Scull has written about as a crisis that has bedeviled psychiatry from its inception)
It's something like this we need to keep in mind when academics discuss the popular influence of a popularizer like the late Michael Heiser. Most evangelical Christians are not even going to think about slogging through books by Loren Stuckenbruck or Archie Wright but the central question between the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible and the New Testament that gets no answer from within the pages of Scripture itself is how did we get from the Jewish scriptures where no demons get mentioned at all to the Gospels where Jesus is obviously presented as an itinerant exorcist? Depending on which scholars of Judaism you read this could be because Jewish scriptures rejected the idea of demonology as relevant to medicine (Jacob Milgrom staked this claim about Levitical diagnoses of skin diseases as just that over against the demonologies of Babylonian medical manuals). Or you could read a scholarly case that demons and gods were rendered into mere forces that Yahweh could and did control (Judit Blair). Alternatively you could have Esther Hamori's God's Monsters that contends that all those monsters are all over the Hebrew Bible and that these terrors served at the beck and call of a God who is a ruthless and mercurial mobster. Hamori also celebrates the necromancer of Endor as a woman who is described as having real power to really summon the dead prophet-judge Samuel and if the text tells us that's what happened that's what happened.
Jeffrey Burton Russell wrote decades ago that the evolution of the devil is explicable in terms of getting God off the hook for permitting so much atrocity but at the same time theologians fretted that the devil shouldn't be granted so much power as to seem like a potential rival to God. In Russell's account of the evolution of Western thought on the devil it is this eagerness to minimize the influence and significance of the devil that can be seen as the basis for the trajectory in Western favored atonement theories from the ransom theory to christus victor to satisfaction theory (Anselm) to the more refined variation of satisfaction theory known (and at times damned) as penal substitutionary atonement. Russell pointed out that with each successive atonement theory the devil is increasingly removed from having any role in the human need for salvation.
What Russell didn't mention is that by the time we get to Friedrich Schleiermacher the liberal Prussian theologian jettisoned the doctrine of The Fall and all demons and the devil as unnecessary to a creedal Christian faith and inadequately accounted for by any biblical texts. Schleiermacher was happy to jettison the entire unseen realm, to use the late Michael Heiser's idiom, because he didn't see it in the Apostle's Creed or the Nicene Creed so it was easily dispensed with.
What becomes strikingly obvious if you were to go through, say Merrill Unger's Biblical Demonology and fundamentalist and evangelical writings about Satan and demons is that you find a lot of demonic exegesis taken for granted with zero explanation as to how these traditions emerged or why. Cue Jeffrey Burton Russell and Peggy Day in the 20th century with attempts to explain how and why. More recent work has been done by Ryan T Stokes and if you want to go old-school there's a slim book by G. B. Caird. But the biggest reason a figure like Michael Heiser can sell so many books that academic theologians may urge you to not read is simple, a strictly biblicist take on the Bible gives you no explanation at all of what unclean spirits are, where they came from, what they actually do, and whether or not they are real. Throw in theological paradigms like cessationism or dispensationalism and the waters become opaque rather than merely murky. There is probably no field of theology where the gap between the leaders and laity is quite so big as it seems to be on the issue of demonology and spiritual warfare.
Francis Young and Brivan Levack have both pointed out that hardline cessationism as an anti-Catholic polemical stance was taken up in the Anglican tradition partly to differentiate from Catholicism and also to delegitimize Catholic exorcism as magic and superstition. On the Catholic side anxiety about the similarities exorcism had to magic was significant enough that the exorcistic formulas that were in the earliest baptismal rites were progressively cut out over a few centuries. Jason Storm could probably point out that this would be part of the triangular dynamic of legitimate religion, illegitimate superstition and science. What gets counted as legitimate can change over time.
Popular belief in demons or the restless dead haven't gone away over a thousand or so years. If it seems that way because we are modern and "Western" ignore that. Only a modern post-industrial Western society could keep cranking out films about exorcisms. This year the United States had successful theatrical releases for anime like Demon Slayer: Infinity Castle and Chainsaw Man, to say nothing of K-Pop Demon Hunters becoming popular. The conceit that the spirit of a restless dead girl could become a full-blown demon was a story line in Rumiko Takahashi's manga Inuyasha decades ago. Mira being half human and half demon just means she's a new variation on a trope that Inuyasha and countless other tales have had.
Those are the kinds of things that persist in popular imagination even if academic theologians want to talk about other things like political theology or maybe how "we" are all Christian nationalists now. In those kinds of moments I am reminded that the Swiss Reformed lay theologian Emil Brunner remarked that the questions that interest and trouble the layman tend to be both more interesting and more difficult than the questions beloved by professional theologians.
What progressive scholars have regularly noted is that there's never a conversation about demons without talking about who the demons are and how often and reliably the demons or the demonized are "other", people who don't fit into the ideal/idealized culture that people in ivory towers talk about. The paradoxical aspect of this observation is that in the 21st century progressives tend to demonize socially conservative evangelical Protestants and integralist Catholics. It's not that I can't understand how and why progressives and secularists could think and feel that way, I'm merely noting the paradox. The impulse is so strong, apparently, to bracket the unwanted others as demonic in some capacity, that even those who profess to reject such moves on principle can't help making those moves in dealing with and addressing flesh and blood movements they don't want prevailing upon the seats of power.
What I have been finding curious in reading about music is that I find the concept of ethnic or national essentialism to have had what I would regard as actually demonic effects. Maybe liberal Protestantism turned to intersubjectivity as a way to get past the impasse of the Cartesian split but if the intersubjective modes at hand turned out to be race and nation (per Theodore Vial's work on some arguably bad side effects of thinking about group identity in Schleiermacher) then there is a sense in which some of the most pressing problems of social cohesion and neighborly living in the 21st century had roots in what liberal Prussian Protestants thought was a grand solution to the problem of a lack of German cohesion in the face of Napoleonic conquests in the long 19th century.
What I'm mulling over offline is how it seems partisans of absolute music cordon off a lot of black American music as inferior because there is some inherently lesser range of possibilities in the "musical material". Now that is manifestly nonsense and I'm not going to rehearse all the blogging I've done in the last ten years toward the aim of advocating for ragtime and blues based sonatas and fugues. But the social constructivist associationist rebuttal to the racism in partisans of absolute music has not, I think, been able to successfully surmount the problem of tethering musical materials to racialized expression. To say that all music is racially linked is, unfortunately, conceding the very point antiracists should most want to reject and for obviously understandable reasons. That is why I have leaned toward steering away from theories of ethnos and race altogether toward how we proprioceptively engage musical time and space. I don't even have binocular vision, actually, but I can get how we live through space and time by way of integrated senses and this is something we can talk about regardless of our skin color, ethnic heritage, or self-identification by way of race.
I think the antiracists want some great things that a constructivist conception of all music as racially produced will probably prevent them from attaining. Conversely, the absolutists in absolute music tend to be intellectually dishonest about the alleged impossibility of certain types of musical material to be compatible with "musical argument".
What can be fruitful about a deep dive into histories of demonologies is something some progressives and secular scholars have pointed out, that who gets demonized should be something we think about. But there's a more basic intra-scholastic question that needs to be asked, if today's scholars feel obliged to combat the demons their scribal forebears put to page what demons are those scholars creating now that future scholar-scribes may feel compelled to denounce generations from now?
In Christian theological terms I can appreciate Emil Brunner's terse statement that fundamentalists tend to want to have detailed taxonomies of demons but the Bible is equivocal and unclear; more important for Christians is to say that Christ defeated and overcame all these powers.
On the other hand, I think Robert Ewusie Moses made a good counterpoint in his book Practices of Power, that Christian life and the life of the mind for a Christian entails confronting what powers and principalities Christ overcame in each age and living in light of that. I.e. James Cone could assert Christ overcame the powers of white supremacism on the Cross. I'll say "Amen" to that even if I'm not sure Cone didn't go way, way off the rails in later work after Black Theology and Black Power.
Given how much tension and debate I've seen within musicology on the legacy of racial essentialist theories about what music X is or music Y isn't, someone like Heiser floating the idea that the biblical literature suggests the possibility of malign spiritual forces being behind anything like that may be rampantly speculative but it's not necessarily more rampantly speculative than advocating for figural readings of passages from The Book of Numbers ... is it?
I may not be impressed with Heiser's work by the time I finally finish it but it's also not really unfair to ask whether or not the failure of Western academic theologians to address these issues (if they're doctrinally conservative) hasn't made it all the easier for figures like Heiser to simply introduce mainstream scholarly ideas about henotheism in the Levant to otherwise evangelical readers.
Appeals to, say, how the oracle to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel refers to Satan without even explaining why cuts the feet out from under any objection that someone like Heiser has become popular.
Pointing out that Jews have never interpreted the oracle in that way is something Hector Patmore discussed at length in a book published by Brill but I'm trying to wrap up this special links-for-the-weekend post by now.
So it's done. :)
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I think Heiser's "The Unseen Realm" is worth reading in full, though I'm not confident that it is wise to be persuaded by his arguments.
From listening to his "Naked Bible Podcast", it seems to me that Heiser has an inconsistent attitude toward the authority of Scripture. He appears to reject Young-Earth Creationism, for example, on the basis of what he understands from modern developments in Natural History. On the basis of these, he doesn't think one should interpret the OT literally in terms of recent creation, or in terms of objective cosmological statements about things like storehouses of precipitation in the heavens.
On the other hand, he does think that OT "theological cosmology" should be taken literally. It appears to me that the justification for this is that we don't have alternative explanations for this OT testimony the way we do, in science, for natural history and physical cosmology.
This appears to me to be a kind of argument from ignorance.
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On the question of how we got from an OT that seems to not be preoccupied with demonic powers to a NT where they seem prominent, perhaps I Enoch has something to do with it; as Heiser describes it (IIRC), there is a theology of "where the unclean spirits come from" that seems to derive from interpretation of the I Enoch "Book of Watchers."
There is a similar disconnect between the OT's apparent lack of interest in the question of post-mortem punishments and the seeming greater prominence of this concern in the NT.
IIRC, in his "Her Gates will Never be Shut", Brad Jersak speculated that the popularity of I Enoch in the 2nd Temple period may be part of the explanation.
The Enochic literature is part of a larger body of literature in what used to be called the intertestamental period but Yoshiko Reed has pointed out that this "period" covers several centuries (I'm going through her book on the evolution of demonologies in Jewish Aramaic scribal literature lately. So, yeah, the books of Enoch tackle the origin of unclean spirits but Archie Wright covered how many other books dealt with the same topic in his formidable survey of the reception history of Genesis 6:1-4, which I suspect Heiser was familiar with.
I'll get to Heiser because I do have three of his books, but the Theopolis conversation gave me the impression that the guys who have read Heiser basically say "don't bother". In my case I've read several of the scholars Heiser has already read and am not entirely sure what new stuff he added.
Richard Horsley has been adamant that Jewish demonologies evolved in the wake of serial imperial conquest but he's got a kind of post-Marxist liberation theological agenda (and a penchant for epic self-citation while showing a lack of familiarity with any extended work by Graham Twelftree or Amanda Witmer on Jesus' exorcism) that can make him come off like an annoying one trick pony. But I take his basic point to be sound, actually.
You are more familiar with the literature than I am; all that I'll add is that I think Heiser doesn't add "new stuff"; rather, he makes the scholarship of others more accessible to laypersons and, importantly (in terms of the significance of his work), advocates for incorporating the ancient theological cosmology into present-day belief and practice. His justification for this appears to me to be that "these beliefs are present among the texts and we don't have superior modern accounts." Having superior modern accounts justifies his rejection of YEC, but he's unwilling to be agnostic about the significance of the hints of OT demonology. I do see this as a serious inconsistency.
Personally, I think that his project ought to be considered permissible as a form of speculative theology. I'm not impressed with the arguments in the Theopolis conversation that post New-Testament deliberations of the churches should set bounds on permissible interpretation of the ancient texts. Certainly, from the standpoint of defining dogmatic boundaries, these deliberations are definitive, but I would distinguish between "what we consider to be orthodox teaching" and "what is actually true." To blur this is, to my mind, to embrace a form of post-biblical revelation. I think it's valid to be curious about whether the ancient post-biblical theologians may have gotten things wrong at points.
a point that Esther Acolatse made in her work on powers and principalities in Ephesians, adding her perspective as a Christian and pastor from Ghana, was that one of the mistakes systematic theologians make in interpreting the relevant biblical texts is presuming and assuming a single unifying spirit cosmology across all the canonized texts. That's probably the simplest way to describe what I think we're both sensing about the Theopolis conversation. Someone like G B Caird could easily note the evolutionary trajectory of the satan across the biblical corpus but he'd be identified as a liberal by fundamentalists and evangelicals. Maybe so but even some conservatives considered Caird to have had some good contributions to make in biblical scholarship. Caird was willing to concede that Paul's views on powers and principalities may have evolved within the course of his life. Caird also assumed Pauline authorship of Ephesians, a point many would explicitly reject now in biblical scholarship. If you decide which epistles weren't Pauline after all you can make sure your precommitments about what he could have and couldn't have meant about powers is stable. ;)
Kabiro wa Gatumu had a good point that many biblical scholars use Bultmann's demythologizing hermeneutic when engaging biblical texts while forgetting that Bultmann's hermeneutic didn't mean he applied that at the level of exegesis. The big demythologizer still labored to exegete the texts with the spirit cosmologies he admitted he couldn't believe in.
Giovanni Bazana had a point that has stuck with me, too, that if spirit possession wasn't considered normative in the early Christ groups why did Paul devote so much space (such as it was) to instruction about conduct and speech in spirit-possessed states in 1 Corinthians?
In an era where majority world theology and biblical scholarship has emerged there is an advantage that Christians in Africa and Asia have been able to revisit some of the hardened surmises of Western European and Anglo-American cessationist norms to point out that you can't get these theological paradigms from the biblical texts themselves.
I haven't gotten to Heiser yet so I don't know if he got to those issues.
I was considering doing seminary work in this field of study decades ago but just never managed to.
Heiser being a popularizer of scholars ordinary people don't know about and wouldn't dare read themselves is not necessarily a bad thing.
Just a few thoughts (again, you have read more widely and deeply than I have).
I think Heiser attempts to present a "synchronic" systematic demonology in "The Unseen Realm." He's constructing what he calls a "Biblical worldview" as it pertains to unseen realities. IIRC from his "Naked Bible Podcast" series, he does recognize differences and development in the beliefs present in the OT texts, but he seems to think about these as systematicians tend to.
I think his book is worth attention as an illustration of experimental/speculative/conditional systematic theology -- if you make these assumptions and these exegetical decisions, this is where you could end up. (I rather like the idea of a taxonomy of theologies, distinguished by the choices that lead to them. Who knows which ones, if any, accurately correspond to what actually is as the Creator sees it)
A brief thought on your "spirit possession" thought in 1 Corinthians; I suspect that there might be a significant lacuna in systematic theology on the question of the location and mode of action of the Holy Spirit in the churches. In the traditions to which I have been exposed, the "location" is primarily within individuals and the presence of the Spirit in the congregation occurs because of the presence of the Spirit-indwelt individuals. I think one can argue that Paul has a "corporate temple" theology, that sees the Spirit present among the assembled believing individuals. The congregations are temples built of living stones within which God dwells through the Spirit. (Greek "en" can be translated "among" as well as "in", and to be "in" a group is to be "among" the individual members of that group.) I suspect that "possession" is far too crude and harsh and unsubtle a term to describe how the Spirit actually works in the groups in which He is pleased to dwell.
The topic of the Holy Spirit and His activities is a big field. Oliver O'Donovan had a memorable quip in a recent book about how in the hands of systematic theologians pneumatology has often been reduced to the valorization of those qualities theologians like in humanity! Ephraim Radner had a long book on the pitfalls he believes are rampant in contemporary pneumatology in A Profound Ignorance. Radner's riff on The Pneumatic Man as being as present in Walt Whitman as Moltmann may be a misremembering on my part. I haven't blogged about Radner at all that I recall.
I see there's a new contribution to the conversation. An Eastern Orthodox contribution is nice. Not Eastern Orthodox myself but I have family and a friend or two in the Orthodox fold.
https://theopolisinstitute.com/conversations/the-divine-council-is-everywhere-in-scripture/
Re: what Heiser adds in his interpretation/presentation of the scholarly literature, there is one thing that may be new (I'm not sure as I don't know the underlying literature at all): his interpretation of "power to become sons of God" in John 1. MH thinks "sons of God" in OT is consistently Divine Council language, and he thinks that this language in John 1 means that Jesus' followers become part of the Divine Council at some point in the future. I don't recall details but he may make connection with Paul's "you will judge angels" and the end-of-Revelation reign of the saints.
Maybe he's right. It is also conceivable to me that universalizing this concept to all believers through all time is going further than the writers of the texts intended. Perhaps the "we" in "if we suffer with him, we will also reign with him" has a more limited purview, such as the 1st Century martyrdom of the apostles.
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