comparative list of charts of who is around, who was, and who may or may not be at Mars Hill, comparing the MH elder list to Throckmorton's list to WtH's list from 2011

As has been noted at a few blogs, Mars Hill Church has experienced significant staff changes in the last few years, most notably since about mid-2011, which would coincide with the emergence of Sutton Turner as a leader within the executive leadership team.  The following four lists may be a useful reference point for people considering just how much has changed in the last four years at Mars Hill Church.

List A is simply a recent list of publicly listed men who are pastors at Mars Hill Church.  List A would not include Jamie Munson, for instance, because even if Jamie Munson is still a pastor at Mars Hill he is not publicly listed or acknowledged as a pastor by MH's public pages.

List B is, give or take a few names, Warren Throckmorton's published list of elders who have stopped being at Mars Hill in the last couple of years.  Nowhere at any point in list B are explanations given for the departures and as some have noted already some men left on good terms, others on bad, others were removed after having been found unfit for ministry and any details would be missing as to which was which unless a person had some documentation.

Now List C, for regular readers of Wenatchee The Hatchet, was compiled from all the Mars Hill campus listings that were available for public consultation in late 2011.  These names include not just pastors but staff of various sorts and were at one point names that could be assembled from the MH campus sites before the website overhaul of early 2012.  The list of names was available to assemble from captures by The WayBack Machine until at month or so ago when Mars Hill began to introduce robots.txt to preclude the use of The WayBack Machine in finding stuff like what you'll find not only in List C but also ...

List D is simply (as accurately as could be managed, so take it with a grain of salt) the formerly publicly listed City profiles of all the people who were in list C.  One or two exceptions may appear because, well, sometimes things come along.

General numbers.

List A has 51 names
List B has 43 names
List C has 91 names
List D, unsurprisingly, has the same number of entries.

What someone who currently has access to The City could theoretically do is go through all of lists C and D and compare them to Warren Throckmorton's List B and cross reference that against List A to see how much overlap there is.  You may notice that some of the people from List C may not have been pastors in 2011 but have turned out to be publicly listed as pastors as of 2014. 

Perhaps in the future there may be a supplemental List E of men who voted in 2007 trials of Paul Petry and Bent Meyer.  Since Mars Hill reported that there was unanimity amongst those elders that voted on whether Petry and Meyer ought to be removed it would seem moot to subdivide a List E by who voted what way. 

On the other hand, in light of all that has come to light about both the nature of the trials as they were handled by Scott Thomas and the Elder Investigation Taskforce, and still further in light of all that has transpired since earlier 2011, it remains to be seen whether or not those men who voted in the 2007 trials and voted in the bylaws Jamie Munson drafted might not have come to different conclusions about the rightness of their vote and the reasons for casting their 2007 vote as they did. 

Until there is a List E to add here ... let's move on to the previously described Lists A, B, C and D.

Well, maybe let's bump things down a little bit and have a jump/break so as not to clutter things too terribly.

A	B	C	D
recent publicly listed pastors	Warren Throckmorton list	WtH list of late 2011 pastors and staff from Wayback searches	formerly publicly listed City profiles from list C
Brandon Andersen	Phil Smidt	bill clem	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/551
Jerry Austin	Mike Wilkerson	mark driscoll	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/67
Zach Bolen	Jon Krombein	bubba jennings	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/69
Joel Brown	Nate Burke	joel brown	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/550
Dave Bruskas	Aaron Mead	brad house	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2
Ed Choi	Matt Repucci	mike wilkerson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/64
Adam Christiansen	Jeff Bettger	eric stark	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/366
Josh Clayton	Andrew Lisi	phil smidt	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/61
David Cox	Tim Quiring	justin holcomb	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/15138
Gabe Davis	Phil Poirier	matt johnson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/78
Joe Day	Dick McKinley	elliot grudem	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/114129
Mark Driscoll	Matt Johnson	adam christiansen	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/365
Mark Dunford	Zach Bolen	katie allen	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/47
Cliff Ellis	Bill Clem	brandon anderson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1526
David Fairchild	Alex Early	matt kelly	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/18823
Alex Ghioni	Wyatt Houtz	lynne wilson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/7820
Aaron Gray	Caleb Davis	mitch miller	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/42171
Matthias Haeusel	Tyler Powell	david ginn	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/7631
AJ Hamilton	Scott Mitchell	thomas hurst	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/692
Scott Harris	Kyle Firstenberg	gary shavey	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/482
Drew Hensley	Samuel Choi	alex ghioni	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/18541
Thomas Hurst	Nick Bogardus	michael van skaik	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2722
Cam Huxford	Justin Schaeffer	tim zion	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/651
Anthony Ianniciello	Kerry Michaelis	sam delay	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2359
Bubba Jennings	Matt Jensen	jason skelton	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/18541
Brian Jonkman	Justin Holcomb	seth winterhalter	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/116391
Ryan Kearns	Fred Choi	brian mccormack	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/110859
Dustin Kensrue	James Noriega	dustin nickerson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/721
Kirby Langley	Elliot Grudem	rachelle peck	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/138
Alfredo Lobaina	Eric Stark	tim gaydos	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/83
Cliff Low	Chris Swan	will little	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/17
Donovan Medina	Brad House	caleb davis	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/312
Andy Phipps	Tim Gaydos	cam huxford	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1114
Adam Ramsey	Will Little	colin day	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/100
Matt Rogers	Tim Beltz	steven kwan	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/27473
Miles Rohde	Dave Kraft	gareth best	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/943
Paul Rohrbaugh	Bruce Ensign	justin ashurst	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2559
James Rose	Steven Mulkey	brandon olsen	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1713
Gary Shavey	Willie Wilson	jeff bettger	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/403
Bill Simmonds	Chad Toulouse	willie wilson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/51061
Jason Skelton	James Harleman	paul freed	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/88
Tim Smith	Scott Thomas	rachel freed	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/98
Joe Stengele	Jeremy Echols	jordan gwyther	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/18481
Jim Tomisser		shandel slaten	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1689
Steve Tompkins		david katz	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/3408
Sutton Turner		amanda hightower	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/624
Matt Wallace		maurice morales	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/22467
Ryan Welsh		chris bristol	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1743
Ryan Williams		jevon washington	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/61254
Seth Winterhalter		samuel choi	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/4718
Steve Zietlow		dave harris	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1214
		mike davis	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1804
		steven mulkey	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/156
		bruce ensign	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1984
		kyle van tine	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/4483
		susan ensign	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2193
		laurie mcnally	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2216
		travis matthews	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1997
		jenny matthews	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1887
		justin watilo	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/8417
		walter cunningham	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/4606
		matt jensen	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/334
		steve sakanashi	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2237
		alex berg	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/3796
		devin deuell	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2949
		jason murray	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/6015
		steve tompkins	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/377
		james harleman	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/104
		justin schaeffer	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/94
		kerry michaelis	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/446
		dick mckinley	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/109
		chad toulouse	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/163
		joe day	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/79
		jim tomisser	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/5714
		reagan north	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/204
		david fairchild	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/328099
		cliff ellis	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2519
		cliff low	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/420
		tim beltz	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/80
		bill simmonds	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/2685
		fred choi	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/1777
		justin gillebo	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/4463
		toby morrell	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/512370
		nick bogardus	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/15463
		kyle firstenberg	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/338
		dustin kensrue	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/301748
		dave kraft	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/84
		aj hamilton	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/63
		donovan medina	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/15711
		matt wallace	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/17936
		jamie munson	http://marshill.onthecity.org/users/66

Wenatchee The Hatchet does not vouch for the accuracy of any of the City profile listings as some accounts will surely have been deactivated or possibly reassigned.  This will be moot to the average reader who does not have access to The City but for those who actually do have access to The City don't be too surprised if the profile user numbers in the list don't match whatever is currently the case.  After all, these lists are presented as a way to get some sense of how much the leadership culture of Mars Hill has changed since 2011 and particularly, it seems, since Sutton Turner joined the executive leadership team. 

Recently announced sabbaticals or layoffs such as might be addressed in wording somewhat like the following:

Staff Chapel

Last week we had to make the very tough decision to transition a number of people off of staff from our ministry support departments, as well as some staff at a few of our local churches. These are all good people who served and worked hard for the church, and we regret that we had to make these changes. If you know any of them, please reach out to offer your prayers and support during this transition, and please continue to pray for the church as we navigate through a tough season.
At this week’s Staff Chapel, we had the opportunity to invite these friends back so that we could honor them and pray over them. They joined other staff members who are being sent out to new opportunities, and also those who recently resigned. It was a meaningful time of worship and reflection as a church family. We are so thankful to have had the opportunity to show these staff members how deeply we care about them and appreciate the contribution they have made toward Jesus’ mission at Mars Hill. While they may no longer be on staff, we love them and they are still a part of our church family.

cannot yet be established.