Friday, May 23, 2014

Warren Throckmorton blogs on Driscoll sermon edited before online posting, Christian Post response, a review of previously redacted content

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2014/05/19/mars-hill-church-deletes-mark-driscolls-teaching-on-jesus-making-mistakes/

The content removed from the Driscoll sermon in which Driscoll asked rhetorically whether Jesus made mistakes got blogged about a few days ago.  We'll get to the content of the sermon itself in time but it's worth noting the headlines, so to speak, for now.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2014/05/22/mars-hill-church-defends-edits-mark-driscolls-sermon-on-acts-61-7/

Mars Hill Church has defended the edits of the Mark Driscoll sermon on Acts 6:1-7.  Throckmorton links to the following:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/mars-hill-church-video-editing-of-mark-driscolls-sermons-not-unusual-uncut-version-of-recent-message-stolen-120165/


Anthony Ianniciello, executive pastor of Media & Communications for Mars Hill Church, mentioned that sermons are edited partly to conform to time restraints.  Taking that at face value that is still, literally, a partial explanation.  It doesn't happen to be the reason Mark Driscoll shared from the pulpit in 2009 for why material from his sermons might get cut out but we'll get to that later.

That sermons or teachings prior to the recent Acts sermon have been edited is something documented at this blog before:
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/06/has-mark-driscolls-man-been-circumcised.html
Short version, in her review of Real Marriage with her husband Andy Alsup, Wendy Alsup quoted from "The Man", a sermon in which Driscoll explained that he put a leader through the woodchipper.  There was actually another blog post over here that documented from the same sermon that a woodchipper anecdote about an elder of some sort at Mars Hill was shared. So after Wendy Alsup quoted from a Driscoll sermon in which Mark Driscoll mentioned putting an elder through the woodchipper that anecdote was removed.

http://refundamentalism.wordpress.com/2012/03/10/mark-driscoll-despised-his-elders/


Mark Driscoll TRAINING PASTORS at an Acts 29 session in Raleigh NC, September 20, 2007:

“…not contentious. You ever meet a guy, it doesn’t matter what the issue is, he’s always gonna play the other side. Those guys are the worst elders in the history of the world. And it doesn’t matter what you’re talk, I had a guy like that; I recently put him in the wood chipper in my church. Seriously. I could say hey, we’re all going to get suckers. He’s be like, what flavor? Whatever flavor you want. Is it sugar free? If you would like. Well, I didn’t say I wanted a sucker. You, you know, you need to die. You know. He just was the guy, he just, he had to nitpick at everything; he had to resist everything, he to look at the other side, if everyone was for something he felt obligated to be the e-brake pulling everything. And you’d ask him why, he’d be like, well, I just wanted to make sure we’ve looked at everything and everybody is considering all the angles. Its like, dude, you’re playing the devils advocate, which is not good. I don’t want anybody for the devil on my team. You know? But there’s some guys like that. It just, they’re contentious, it doesn’t, they’re always fighting, always arguing. There’s, I’ve had guys in eldership, where, in the meeting, everything’s going fine, and they’ll say, I got something, I got something I need to say. And everybody’s head does this; everybody looks like they just got kicked in the sack. You know, I mean literally, they just the air comes out of their body, they just fold in half, because you know, here he goes again, here he freaking goes again. You know. That guy on an elder board, robs the board of any joy at all, and you already got enough criticism and people and work, when you get together with your elders, you don’t all men to be yes men, but at the same time, somebody who’s just contentious, and a neatnick and e-brake puller, I mean those guys, I mean all of a sudden you despise your elder’s meetings, and I’ll tell you what, when you despise your elders, at that point you have no safe place in the world from which to do ministry. Elders meetings stink, people are shooting me, everything’s hard, and I go to meet with the guys, and there’s always one guy there who just, he’s just like a fart in an elevator, and its just, you know, I’m just counting the minutes till I can get away from this guy. You can pray for me, you may say, it seems like he’s dealing with this right now, yes, I am. I’m thinking of certain people. If it weren’t for Jesus I would be violent.”

So, that anecdote was excised from "The Man" back in 2012.  So whether or not people may realize this there's a precedent for editing out content from Driscoll sermons that has been in place for a while now. How far back this has gone warrants another post.

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