Sunday, February 16, 2014

recycle day: Roy Baumeister, the disposability of men, and social meaning for the unattached male

This was a blog post written a few years ago and published at the following link:
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2011/07/roy-baumeister-disposability-of-men-and.html

And here is the post:

http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm

I have three short tales about four unmarried men. Two are in their thirties and two are in their forties but all are essentially closer to forty than thirty.

The first man

The first man spent ten years in a conservative Christian setting and wanted to get married. Eventually he turned his back on the Christian faith. He spent years exasperated that he was told from the pulpit that what guys were supposed to do was to go get real jobs, get a woman, marry her, make babies, and move "upstream" to change the culture for Jesus. He felt angry and frustrated that no matter what he tried to do he could never get "upstream" and not only didn't get upstream but probably never would get upstream. All his relationships with women fell apart and he began to feel that this was because the women he had pursued were dishonest and delusional.

The women, for their part, told him he was emotionally and financially unstable and some of them even issued restraining orders against him out of fear for their safety after they broke things off with him. He spent years relying on his feelings as the fuel to motivate him to get things done and pursue goals in his life, yet his feelings could whip around quite violently whether he knew it or not. After he gave up on the Christian faith he also gave up on the idea of marriage and considered it bad and now prefers to argue against human breeding and against marriage altogether.

The second man

The second man also spent years in a conservative Christian setting and by his own account was not only eager to be married but resented God for not giving him a wife because from childhood he had wanted to be married and have a family. Now by "family" he never meant having kids because he dislikes kids but he was eager to marry, so eager he got engaged to a woman who was not particularly faithful before the wedding day and in grave disappointment he broke things off. Eventually he landed at a church where there were a lot of women and he began to consider a number of them as possible bride candidates. None of these worked out even at the level of being more than casual acquaintences. He spent years expressing the idea that no woman should ever be considered out of his league but he never managed to even get into a steady dating relationship and began to feel upset and bitter about how shallow women were for not considering him while considering others.

A friend tried matchmaking for him but none of the propose matches interested him for various reasons revolving around single motherhood and a lack of "spark". Eventually he left that church and came to believe that marriage itself, the thing he coveted for a decade, was basically an abomination. Tax breaks and laws seemed, to him, to favor marriage without any good cause. Women were shallow and he came to regard Tom Leykis as a kind of hero. Though he said of himself he was honest enough to admit "I don't care if they're real as long as they're a certain size" he never put together that he might have been as shallow as the women who never considered him dating material.

In this case a friend approached the man about his ideas about women. The man was fond of saying it was sinful to consider any woman out of his league. A friend asked him that if this were the case what was the man's own unique sales pitch to a woman who could not be out of his league? After all, a woman who would spend her life with a man had to be able to hope for something to be gained from that life? It's one thing to assume no one is above you in the quest for a mate and another thing to have a compelling sales pitch for your candidacy. And would it not also be possible to say that if no woman is above you then no woman is beneath you? To this the man replied that what a woman would stand to gain from life with him was not particularly important, it wasn't even a relevant question. It would appear, however, after ten years of never landing a date that women did consider the question of what they stood to gain from a relationship with him to be fairly important.

Now, however, he considers marriage an abomination. Having spent years saying of those who didn't like the church he was at anymore that they left due to sour grapes he ended up embodying sour grapes himself with regard the thing he resented God for not giving him, marriage. Coveting and envy transformed into loathing and disdain. Along the way he could grant that he was not married because he was an @$$hole but that was a short moment in time. And it wasn't long after that he thought he had a serious shot with a woman who was a decade younger than him. He might have played with the idea that he wasn't the best candidate to be a husband but he was still, at that point, taken with the idea that no woman could possibly be off limits to his consideration in the mating game. He is, probably, still some kind of Christian but spends a good deal of time pontificating against "morality police", though he once revelled in making fun of people using gay slurs he now considers Christians to be unconscienably cruel toward gays. Odds are pretty decent he still teases people by using gay slurs but I don't know for sure.

The third man

This is a Christian man who spent decades hoping to get married. He is not married and he is in his forties now. Unlike the first man, who felt it was impossible to get "upstream" this man has a steady and relatively prosperous career. He can afford to own his own place in an urban center and is socially active. He cares passionately about politics and religion and loves to constantly debate those topics here in the Seattle area. Perhaps unsurprisingly he has a reputation as being a gadfly and an arguer. Not everyone enjoys arguing with him. He feels strongly that the people in the city are basically bad people for judging him, though he rarely backs off from a fight about either religion or politics and does not tend to give people the benefit of a doubt. He has had trouble finding a church home where he feels happy in Seattle because on the one hand he does not like liberal churches but has trouble feeling at home even in conservative ones.

He is a friendly and warm fellow but as yet has not managed to marry and has passed into his forties. He has bristled at jokes made by some Christians that they have no idea how married people make it through the day and is unhappy that some Christians basically speak as though unmarried guys are worthless losers who have done nothing with their lives because they aren't married. Yet he feels that he is, ultimately, a loser precisely because he isn't married and hasn't managed to land a steady dating relationship. He's warm enough and friendly enough to land a few dates here and there but never manages to sustain a romantic relationship for reasons that elude him. He has often suspected the problem is where he is and the people in the city around him. He considers the scriptures and firmly believes that there are no places in the scripture where God indicates that unmarried people have any favor or blessing from the Lord. After all, he who finds a wife finds what is good and receives favor from the Lord. The opposite is never affirmed anywhere in scripture is it?

The fourth man

The fourth man, like the first, was once a conservative Christian and is so no longer. In his Christian days he fretted about his not being married because he was asked point blank by fellow conservative Christians why he wasn't. It was tantamount to being confronted with the question, "What's your excuse? Why aren't you married?" He wasn't sure why. He tended to dread and fear women, in no small way because he could admit he had an emotionally volatile, controlling and manipulative mother. He had the sort of mother who could tell him that the reason good Christian girls dated unbelievers who had sex with them and then made them get abortions was because good Christian guys like him didn't date them.

Except that he didn't feel he really was a good Christian guy, not when he considered his fantasy life and the sexual temptations he relented to. He eventually began to feel that Christian sexual ethics essentially amounted to a utilitarian one in which one only had value due to being paired off. He wanted to have experience and couldn't obtain it clining to Christian teaching. Not only did evolutionary explanations from science suggest that Genesis was unreliable scientific study and evolutionary theories about human nature also suggested that the entire realm of sexual experience Christians sought to limit entirely to marriage were actually available for those who were brave enough to shake off the shackles of Christian legalism and seek what was there to be sought.

But after crossing over the divide between faith and unbelief and obtaining the experiences he sought he found himself disappointed. In his eagerness to obtain experience he jettisoned any standards he might have had. He began to feel that he had settled for relationships that were really not very healthy and for experiences that ultimately weren't worth the effort. And yet on the other side of the divide between belief and unbelief he still felt like a loser because he began to notice that even among the unbelievers everyone his age was already paired off. They might not be married but they were cohabitating and in some cases had done so and borne children.

He began to wonder how it was he got to this point; paradoxically he felt he was just as much a loser among unbelievers for not being in a steady sexual relationship with one person as he did back when he was still a Christian and not married. How was this possible? He felt that ultimately it was his own moral and social failures that accounted for this. Where as the previous three men looked outside and seethed at the injustices done to them with regard to romance this man looked inward and concluded he was just not made of the stuff to have bothered and felt like a loser.

He noticed that a lot of guys who had tried making marriage or a relattionship work had failed and in the process they lost custody of their children and had to make child support payments. The women, it seemed, had the option of filing for divorce and trading up for richer and/or younger modelsof men. It seemed that the flip side of men nabbing trophy wives was that we as a culture had gotten to a point where trophy husbands have come into existence, too. What is more due to the primacy of motherhood a woman would almost invariably get custody in a broken relationship and the male, having once established the life of a child he would no longer have custody over, was totally expendable.

Now the fourth men was able to articulate what I believe is a challenge that every man must eventually face but that is acute for every unmarried man who is also not a parent. Roy Baumeister, in his address responding to Maureen Dowd, said that the paradox about men is that we are valuable in society because we are expendable.

Think of it this way, as some Christian pastors and pundits like to put it, a whole bunch of kids go to bed tonight with no dad. The question is asked "Where's dad?" Dads do play vital, indispensible roles in raising a child and I am not blogging here to propose otherwise. But to see how marriages fail and how custody tends to get assigned it would appear that in terms of legal precedent alone many courts decide that if push comes to shove then the more expendable of the two roles between father and mother the father has the ultimately more expendable role.

Roy Baumeister indirectly touches on this by pointing out a pragmatic reality: if half the men of a generation are killed there are still enough penises left to sire a subsequent generation. If half of the women are killed off by war or disease then the plethora of corresponding penises do absolutely no good in producing a subsequent generation. I might say here that unless one woman agrees in such a situation to sire children for multiple men to ensure family lines continue then a majority of men are consigned to being genetic dead ends.

Actually, Baumeister points out that research in the last ten years on genetics and heredity suggests that half of the males in any given generation are already genetic dead ends. Baumeister makes his point rather bluntly:

A second thing that makes men useful to culture is what I call male expendability. This goes back to what I said at the outset, that cultures tend to use men for the high-risk, high-payoff undertakings, where a significant portion of those will suffer bad outcomes ranging from having their time wasted, all the way to being killed.

Any man who reads the newspapers will encounter the phrase “even women and children” a couple times a month, usually about being killed. The literal meaning of this phrase is that men’s lives have less value than other people’s lives. The idea is usually “It’s bad if people are killed, but it’s especially bad if women and children are killed.” And I think most men know that in an emergency, if there are women and children present, he will be expected to lay down his life without argument or complaint so that the others can survive. On the Titanic, the richest men had a lower survival rate (34%) than the poorest women (46%) (though that’s not how it looked in the movie). That in itself is remarkable. The rich, powerful, and successful men, the movers and shakers, supposedly the ones that the culture is all set up to favor — in a pinch, their lives were valued less than those of women with hardly any money or power or status. The too-few seats in the lifeboats went to the women who weren’t even ladies, instead of to those patriarchs.

Most cultures have had the same attitude. Why? There are pragmatic reasons. When a cultural group competes against other groups, in general, the larger group tends to win out in the long run. Hence most cultures have promoted population growth. And that depends on women. To maximize reproduction, a culture needs all the wombs it can get, but a few penises can do the job. There is usually a penile surplus. If a group loses half its men, the next generation can still be full-sized. But if it loses half its women, the size of the next generation will be severely curtailed. Hence most cultures keep their women out of harm’s way while using men for risky jobs.

These risky jobs extend beyond the battlefield. Many lines of endeavor require some lives to be wasted. Exploration, for example: a culture may send out dozens of parties, and some will get lost or be killed, while others bring back riches and opportunities. Research is somewhat the same way: There may be a dozen possible theories about some problem, only one of which is correct, so the people testing the eleven wrong theories will end up wasting their time and ruining their careers, in contrast to the lucky one who gets the Nobel prize. And of course the dangerous jobs. When the scandals broke about the dangers of the mining industry in Britain, Parliament passed the mining laws that prohibited children under the age of 10 and women of all ages from being sent into the mines. Women and children were too precious to be exposed to death in the mines: so only men. As I said earlier, the gender gap in dangerous work persists today, with men accounting for the vast majority of deaths on the job.

Another basis of male expendability is built into the different ways of being social. Expendability comes with the large groups that male sociality creates. In an intimate, one-to-one relationship, neither person can really be replaced. You can remarry if your spouse dies, but it isn’t really the same marriage or relationship. And of course nobody can ever really replace a child’s mother or father.

In contrast, large groups can and do replace just about everybody. Take any large organization — the Ford Motor Company, the U.S. Army, the Green Bay Packers — and you’ll find that the organization goes on despite having replaced every single person in it. Moreover, every member off those groups knows he or she can be replaced and probably will be replaced some day.


Baumeister is, of course, not the only social scientist to be able to make this observation but with regard to male disposability it can be said that it is a feature and not a flaw in the role of males in human civilization. Now while a conservative Protestant may object that this is a worldly and evolutionary measure of things this is not something that can be disputed with respect to the role of men. How do we know? Well, let me put it to you this way:

Consider the polemic that the epidemic of singleness some neo-Reformed see in today's society is put squarely on the shoulders of irresponsible young men. We get told in numerous ways that they are just refusing to "man up" and go get a woman and marry her. A guy might avoid doing this because he is playing the field in which case he is denounced as a sexual pervert and a jerk who needs to put his pants on, get a real job, go find a girl, and marry her to the glory of Jesus. A guy who has not managed to marry because he is afraid of rejection, insecure about his financial prospects of supporting a family, diffident in the face of a history of rejection, or insecure because he feels he doesn't measure up gets told a different message.

Depending on which pastor is delivering the message of rebuke the gist of things is this, that unmarried man is a worthless coward. Notice that the guy who has, as it were, the courage to sin boldly via fornication is considered to be a guy who just needs to shape up and fly right while the unmarried guy who is afraid of getting shot down and isn't even playing the field is "worthless". Why? Because he's considered to be an irresponsible boy who can shave and is wasting time doing this or that hobby and not building a legacy for Jesus. It would appear in even conservative Christian circles there is a sense in which it is better to ask for forgiveness than to wait for permission! It would appear the guys who are afraid to ask for permission because they fear they'll get told no are "worthless" to some Christian pundits whereas the guys who just went fornicating can find forgiveness in Jesus. The straight fornicators, at any rate, can find "redemption" in marriage.

Well, whatever one may decide about the worthlessness of the unmarried man vs the worthiness of the married man is not exactly what I intend to explore. What I am considering here is that the four men I have mentioned (and by extension myself as the fifth) face down in the later 30s and 40s is the realization that so far as culture and society go we are expendable.

For the first guy a substantial source of bitterness and resentment was hearing a megachurch pastor declare that guys need to find their value in getting a real job, getting a woman, going "upstream" and "influencing culture". This was an explicit manifesto stating that what makes one valuable as a man is doing a set of things and jumping through a set of hoops to the glory of Jesus. And if you either don't do these things through failures on your part or don't manage to do these things because of external obstacles then, well, you're part of the demographic problem of adultescent males who refuse to grow up even if you have managed to been shut down by any girlfriend you ever managed to get.

It is not so surprising, in hindsight, that the first man explicitly rejected both marriage as the definition of truly responsible adulthood and has located it in "sustainable living" and an avoidance of procreation. After all, this places "the breeders" in a lower moral category and makes them more selfish for breeding given the pending ecological catastrophe; it also permits one to transform one's utter failure by one social metric into moral superiority and victory by way of another. The man no longer has to hear from a megachurch pastor with a wife and multiple children that he is a failure for not being married. It is very convenient for someone who by sheer force of will and determination has obtained already all the things considered necessary for being a real man to speak down to those who have failed and considers this to be lighting a fire under them to motivate them. Though the first man has made any number of decisions I have considered to be exceptionally foolhardy I do not entirely begrudge him his vexation at being told in so many ways that he had to basically turn himself into an alpha male rather than the omega male he generally felt he was.

The second man underwent a similar transformation in which the thing he most coveted and envied is now transformed into an abomination but for different reasons. Though he (oddly, like the first guy) was apt to make some of the most derogatory comments about homosexuals I've heard, was able to say without batting an eyelash that Christians should stop being so nasty to them. It's an easy affectation to take up when once you have cast off marriage as an evil abomination and yet claim solidarity in affliction with gays, many of whom would actually like to be married. It does not go without saying that this sort of moral outrage at the sour grapes is not just a little self-serving and selective. What is an abomination for the resentful straight goose can't stop being that for the gay gander.

The third man still wants to be married and still considers married people to have it better in every possible respect. He has never been married and so imagines, as I suppose may be common to many unmarried conservative Christian males, that there is no possibility of such a thing as awkward, unfulfilling or even physically painful sex. I am an unmarried fellow who has seen a lot of fellow single Christians speak of marriage entirely in terms of the benefits and good times.

It is seen by them and even presented in their churches as a "functional savior". Now I hate that phrase because of how cheaply it is used but I use it here because it is, ironically, in those churches that would deny they do this that marriage really is held forth as a kind of functional savior. If a pastor can say from the pulpit that men who don't ask women out due to fear are worthless cowards then this means that they have been judged unfit for real life, since real life and real adulthood are defined by marriage. Marriage is for men and not boys, ergo the unmarried are not real men.

The third man considers himself a loser for having not married and considers marriage to be the big sign in this life of being blessed by God. He measures himself as a failure on this count and yet does not see that though he rejects and repudiates all kinds of other arguments and claims from churches in other areas of his life as legalism and shaming he fully accepts the "failure" of singleness at an emotional level while, it seems, vacillating between internalizing the emotional sense of failure and externalizing its causes. Anyone who attempts to go through the scriptures to point out that categorically declaring marriage to be both better than singleness and the measure of God's favor as a simplistic and atomized reading of scripture is met with his hostility. It is better to feel a failure for having not married, perhaps, than to feel confident that the Lord does not consider us to be better or more precious to Him in our unmarried state than a married one.

A careful consideration of all the marriages in scripture will show that not all marriages were necessarily proofs of God's immense favor. What I have seen time and again in the last twenty years of my adult life is that there is a powerful distinction between a proverb employed as a universal axiom and a proverb deployed in real wisdom. Real wisdom does not reside in merely knowing a proverb and applying it whenever you're sure the proverb even tangentially relates to a situation or a person, real wisdom resides in acquiring through the Lord's mercies the knowledge of when a proverb applies and when it doesn't. Like a lame man’s legs, which hang useless, is a proverb in the mouth of fools. Like a thorn that goes up into the hand of a drunkard is a proverb in the mouth of fools. A proverb can be true itself but useless through misapplication. A proverb employed by a fool can end up doing harm both to the fool and to those upon whom the fool uses the proverb. The whole contest between Job and his friends could be summed up as the dispute between a man afflicted by God with those who in their certainty with proverbs and theodicy made themselves foolish by applying the "right" theology at the wrong time to the wrong person for the wrong reasons.

I have seen Christian stroll through prooftext after prooftext and ignore Paul's explicit statement that those who do not marry are doing fine by the Lord. Many people look at what Paul says about the cares and distractions of married life and how they can be an impediment to seeking and serving the Lord and just assume that Paul must be lying or speaking out of the ignorance of having been unmarried for so long he just didn't know what he was talking about.

The fourth man summed up the anxiety of feeling disposable. He's past forty years old now and realizes that he is, in the scope of human history, nobody. As someone who has been looking for work for nearly two years with no success this is the anxiety I find most troubling to wrestle with. A father, no matter how bad a father he may be, has played an irreversible role in bringing forth a human life. Even if that father were to fail so utterly in his role as to not see his child for the rest of his life (after bringing the child into the world by dint of mere reproduction) he has not, from a genetic standpoint, been a total failure. In other words he providentially has a legacy by way of a child even if it is through a child he doesn't want.

But the unmarried man or woman who goes through life and fails to bring forth a child? Well, it would seem given the way some Christians talk about "God's design" that these men and women are considered failures. They are not just failures simply for missing the mark but get told they are objects of God's judgment for not seeking to fulfill God's design. Ironically the straight single person comes under the same rebuke that a Christian with a same-sex attraction would come under. A person who does not make sufficient visible effort to pair off may simply be suspected of homosexuality even if he or she isn't simply because of a cultural hermeneutic of suspicion. After all, as some Christians put it, the goal of a man should be to love Jesus by getting a real job, getting a wife, and making babies. This is what guys should do so that they are not merely consumers but create a legacy.

But this gets at to me, the problem of framing Christian marriage and fatherhood in terms of "legacy". What if the highest good in the Christian's life is not the creation of one's own legacy but participation in Christ's legacy? This does not indicate that one no longer attempts to pursue marriage or career or whatever but that these can be done out of thanks for a legacy that through Christ is already secured. As the apostle Paul put it himself let those who are married live as though they were not for the time is short. That's the positive way of framing this concern.

The negative way of framing the concern is that legacy is not an intrinsic good. For that matter legacy was the foundation of the temptation to build a tower at Babel. They explicitly sought to not scatter themselves but to build a monument to themselves and a legacy. There are those Christian men who seek fatherhood to obtain for themselves a legacy which is not actually the legacy of Christ but their own legacy. These men should not necessarily stop having children but have a different disposition in their hearts toward these children.

And, once more, we come to Job. A man may accumulate wealth, get a wife, have children, and build a legacy and in a single day the Lord can authorize Satan to destroy all those children, destroy all that wealth, and afflict one's body with disease. Then the wife who is proof of God's blessing and favor urges you to "bless God and die". Then your friends gather around you and tell you how these afflictions must have come upon you because of the sin in your heart for which the Lord is justly judging you. Any attempt to explain that you fear the Lord, fear ever incurring His wrath, and have no idea why God has permitted this to happen to you; any attempt to point out that it's rather crazy to assume that there is a big lesson (because there must be a lesson in this suffering) to be learned in how one must REALLY trust God so that this disaster won't happen becomes evidence against you.

I am at a point in my life where one of the major struggles I have with depression as a man is that I have not managed in nearly two years to talk anyone into hiring me for a job. That leaves a guy feeling useless. I find it hard to feel useless because I am unmarried and have never actually dated because there's nothing like joblessness to make a guy feel like at least there isn't THAT burden on top of me, too. But being explicitly and implicitly told that marriage is the measure of real adulthood can be a source of substantial frustration because it basically means I get told I know nothing about sacrifice. Why? I'm not married. I'm not really an adult. Why? I'm not married. Now I don't get this at the church I'm at but ten years of getting it in other church and family settings takes a while to get over. I think most of the time I'm over it.

But I'm not over not having a job, and I'm not over the gnawing feeling that I spent a decade gaining skills that are basically worthless in the job market. I am not over the struggle to figure out what, if anything, I can do to even land any kind of steady income. Certainly I have plenty of fun writing free-lance projects as I go and composing music but I honestly don't see how that is the same as having a steady 9-5 kind of job. Even when I consider just the feeling that I'm useless because nobody has seen fit to hire me that's not the entire anxiety of meaning, the other part of anxiety of meaning is something that I don't consciously wrestle with the way the four guys I mentioned have, which is the sense of social disposability where marriage goes. I admit I'm not entirely over that.

There's a passage of scripture I have reflected upon in the last few years. My friend Wendy over at practical theology for women has written about women dealing with infertility and singleness. Isaiah wrote about that issue but not just about that issue. Isaiah also wrote to those who never married. To be a man with no wife or children was to be worthless in that society, too, in the long run. Family legacy mattered more than individual legacy. Even if you were a great individual with no family to continue, no heir of any kind, you still died a nobody in many cases.

Jesus said that there were those who were born eunuchs from birth, those made eunuchs by men, and those who made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom. A eunuch was, typically, a man who was a chamberlain for a royal court, a bed-keeper of a harem. Though the royal position itself was a privileged one the customary castration that often went with this in other ancient societies involved a mutilation that made one ineligible to worship in the temple and be in the presence of the Lord. Though one was of great worth to the royal court in terms of the spiritual community and corporate worship one was irrevocably an outsider.

Isaiah 56:3-8

Let no foreigner who is bound to the LORD say,
“The LORD will surely exclude me from his people.”
And let no eunuch complain,
“I am only a dry tree.”
For this is what the LORD says:
“To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths,
who choose what pleases me
and hold fast to my covenant—
to them I will give within my temple and its walls
a memorial and a name
better than sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name
that will endure forever.
And foreigners who bind themselves to the LORD
to minister to him,
to love the name of the LORD,
and to be his servants,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold fast to my covenant—
these I will bring to my holy mountain
and give them joy in my house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and sacrifices
will be accepted on my altar;
for my house will be called
a house of prayer for all nations.”
The Sovereign LORD declares—
he who gathers the exiles of Israel:
“I will gather still others to them
besides those already gathered.”

recycling materials from an older post about suicide and white males

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2011/06/mockingbird-suicide-paradoxes-and-role.html
As noted over at the Freakonomics website
http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/06/21/the-suicide-paradox-full-transcript/

... For men and women, being unmarried, widowed, or divorced increases the risk. The most typical suicide is a man 75 or older. But in that age bracket, where a lot of people are dying from a lot of things, suicide isn’t even a top 10 cause of death. For people from ages 25 to 34, suicide is the second leading cause of death. And it’s in the top five for all Americans from ages 15 to 54. In terms of timing, suicide peaks on Mondays

The beginning of the work week, right?

WRAY: So, yes the inner mountain west is a place that is disproportionately populated by middle-aged and aging white men, single, unattached, often unemployed with access to guns. This may turn out to be a very powerful explanation and explain a lot of the variance that we observe. It’s backed up by the fact that the one state that is on par with what we see in the suicide belt is Alaska.
DUBNER: All right, so now you can get a picture of the American who’s most likely to kill himself: an older, white male who owns a gun, probably unmarried and maybe unemployed, living somewhere out west, probably in a rural area. Now, don’t you want to know: where aren’t people killing themselves?

This is not to say i'm endorsing suicide or that any of the above are but it is an interesting proposal and it seems to have a ring of truth to it. When i consider the suicides in Scripture, most particularly those of Samson, King Saul, Ahithophel, and Judas I see men who rose to a particular level within their culture, frequently to the top or very near the top of their social unit. Then they made a mistake, a huge mistake which could be described as either an irreversible decision or as an irremediable character flaw or both. Samson's dim-witted horniness led him to marry a Phillistine and compromise the national security of the people he was pledged to protect. King Saul was forsaken by the Lord for attempting to conflate kingly and priestly roles and chose suicide over death at the hands of the Phillistines who defeated him. Ahithophel sided with an insurrection against king David as retaliation for what David had done to his descendent Bathsheba and to Uriah the Hittite, one of his in-laws. Judas, well, we don't really have to get too detailed about the same of betraying Jesus now, do we?

This weekend of Valentine's Day I've decided to reprint material I've blogged about in the past that thematically ties to the nebulous and firm connection between not having a special someone and how people within our culture can react to this.  This goes beyond what might be chalked up as a stuff American evangelical Christians obsess about (which, of course, they/we do) but to something broader.  When a survey of suicides suggests that the unattached are more likely to kill themselves this may, to be so bald about saying so, back up my earlier observation in the weekend that being truly needed in a relational context can feel like a trap.  As many have no doubt surmised before,however, what can seem like a trap from one perspective can be a safety net from another.  Feminists have written plenty about the trap of domesticity and it can be a trap to anyone but Roy Baumeister's writing over the last six years might suggest that since men dominate the top and bottom that the domestic life women may find in marriage may not just trap them from rising higher in the socio-economic strata of a society, it may also keep them from falling lower than they otherwise might descend.  Of course this isn't a ringing endorsement of finding or retaining a social station.  Nothing is necessarily stable or automatically good for being stable.

For review, white males without jobs are more likely to consider suicide, particularly if they live in rural areas and have access to guns (or simply means of killing themselves).  Living in Seattle, which is pretty generally a left-leaning and educated city, it can be easy to forget or see people forget that the sorts of men who would be seen as political "enemies" or as symbolically reigning in some oppressive position of power may not be.  To flip things around, Hanna Rosin observed that the women she saw and heard to be most likely speaking against the patriarchy were often well-to-do successful urban white women who could literally afford to devote a great deal of time speaking against patriarchy.  Maybe people who speak about white privilege and male privilege are themselves positioned to speak from a privilege that is unexamined.  If you can access the internet at all, globally speaking, you've had to have so many privileges to start with it may blunt the edge of some elements of speaking truth to power (but, again, I digress).

From the old Freakanomics conversation this exchange also stood out:

DUBNER: “As soon as the terrors of life reach the point at which they outweigh the terrors of death, a man will put an end to him life.”
HAMERMESH: Exactly. Well, that’s just an economic statement. You’re weighing the benefits on one side of the equation, the costs of the other. If the costs exceed the benefits, you chop off the investment.


I've heard people share over the years how and when they have considered suicide and maybe my being a single guy has biased the sample but it's always been single guys who have shared they've struggled with the question of why they should keep going on.  We live in a society where you have to make your own purpose, even if you don't really, ultimately, have a whole ton of viable options. 

What's been interesting for me to read over the last ten years is to see single people, and it's more often men who, purely anecdotally, seem to make this objection than women, talk about how they got sick of religion and sick of God.  Some men put it so bluntly as to say they resented God they did not have a woman in their life year after year.  Some resented God and others resented religion altogether.  Others opted to resent women (or all the above).  But what didn't get conceded at any point was that the man was single because he simply hadn't developed a sales pitch or wasn't really in a position to date or marry.  Among the Christian women who at times commented about how the guys needed to step up there was no direct concession that this was more a case of women wanting certain guys to step up.  As an article in the Atlantic recently put it, women are discouraged from marrying down (and for good reason, because when the woman is in a higher earning bracket or educational bracket than her husband is but the disparity is not very large that's an environmental factor that indicates a higher risk of domestic violence). 

There's not necessarily a particular reason someone "needs" to be paired off with someone romantically but still people will be angry at God or society or the sex that is the subject and object of desire when they don't have what they want.  It's not just in a Christian subculture where wanting a special someone but not having them leaves you in a damned if you do and damned if you don't double bind.  Oscar Wilde's quip that comedies end with marriages and tragedies start with them is based on something.  Perhaps across the board tragedy is when a person gets what he or she thinks he or she wants and then discovers what actually comes along with the dotted line.  How many singles this weekend pined for a relationship that would complete them when they're already complete? And this Valentine's Day weekend how many people on the other side of that single/paired up divide felt trapped by having attained the relationship they thought they most wanted.  It seems the grass will never really be any greener on the other side.  And as Koholeth put it, in the end all meet the same fate, death, whether they choose death directly or whether death simply and inevitably finds them.

Thursday, February 13, 2014

pariahs and Valentines Day

http://www.theologyforwomen.org/2014/02/biblical-womanhood-for-pariahs.html
http://www.theologyforwomen.org/2010/11/pariahs.html

Wendy has written a bit about pariahs in the past, and given the focus of her blog she's written about women who are pariahs in church settings.  It might be a woman who is divorced or who has never been married or who has miscarried in a setting where most of her friends are expecting, or expecting again. A pariah might be someone whose spouse has left her or never found a spouse.

It's also possible, of course, for men to be pariahs.  One of the singular memories I have of the old stomping grounds was that single men were considered near the bottom of the pecking order.  The older and more reliably single the lower the status was likely to be.  Even over at Wendy's blog I saw a number of women essentially explain the "epidemic of singleness" as the fault of the single men who weren't manning up to take wives.  It sometimes seemed as though the epidemic of singleness and the men who didn't man up to take wives had a very specific, localized diagnosis but that temptation is understandable enough to forgive.  :) 

But there were times when I would hear a single guy say at Mars Hill, when a woman might broach the question of standards of beauty and attraction, "It's only ever the less attractive ones who keep bringing that up."  That could begin to seem very much like the pot calling the kettle black in a number of cases but let's not dwell on that too long.

Having seen a couple of decades of dead end jobs and having a disability or two I do think that the unmarried Christian male can be a sort of pariah, particularly as age advances.  There are worse things to be, of course, and the status may not always exist as firmly for others as it might in the mind of the perceiver.  But once you feel like you're there, you can sure feel it--one of my longest standing friends was a Christian once and long ago became an atheist and he shared with me the miserable observation that he felt like a loser on either side of the great divide.  He felt like a loser when he was a Christian for not having landed a wife yet and then after he became an atheist and cast off the various moral restraints customarily expected of practicing Christians he still felt like a loser in the company of fellow atheists and agnostics for not having managed to steadily pair up with someone.  As we approach Valentine's Day I can think of the hand wringing some people will do simply because it's that day, the handwringing that single Christians may have about that day being here and not having a special someone.

It's just another day, people.  You know this already.

There's a pretty decent chance I'll spend time visiting with a couple I've been friends with now for, what, a decade.  The husband and wife are precious friends and at no point have I ever felt that my being single was ever some problem to be solved.  Now if they were to recommend a woman for me to spend time with then I'd spend time with that woman but they've never seen my singleness as a problem, in itself, that had to be fixed.  And for my part I have not necessarily envied married life.  I've grown up in extended family settings where seeing the challenges of children with health problems and the difficulties of affording housing and food gave me the impression that marriage and family life was a collossal amount of work and that while some people extolled "date night" and "wifely stripteases" these were at most a tiny fraction of what actual shared life would be about. 

We live in a society in which sexual relationships are entered into through mutuality and consent.  This is great, but what we may not so readily observe, Christian or no, is that there will always be losers.  When Jesus said "The poor you will always have with you" there are a variety of ways in which someone can be a loser in the game of life.  What seems most striking about American evangelicalism in the last twenty years on the subject of marriage and singleness is a propensity to imagine that the way things ought to be is to be straight, married, and reproductively prosperous for the sake of ploughing a counterculture for Jesus.

Not everyone gets that lot in life and if Christian ethical teaching cannot account for those who lose out the gate for some reason or another then Jesus' comment about how there are eunuchs born eunuchs, eunuchs who are made eunuchs by men, and people who choose to be eunuchs will remain one of those passages that never preaches in the average American evangelical church.  There aren't supposed to be eunuchs because they're all supposed to go get married.

Now I've particularly seen and heard some silly proposals as to how one may know one is going to stay single.  One is that you're called to some deadly ministry smuggling Bibles into China (that it is so often white people imagining that a life-threatening ministry to non-whites is reason white Christians in America should consider singleness is a whole separate annoyance I don't feel like getting into in a blog post).  Anyway, if God's somehow called you to smuggle Bibles into another country, then you should stay single but otherwise God's design is for you to marry. 

Another proposal is that if you're called to singleness you'll be at peace about that.  Go back and read the book of Jeremiah and explain to me where it was that the prophet was told not to take a wife and what the reason for it was.  The reason was not because the prophet was given a ministry that would end in death.  Didn't Paul write that the apostle Cephas (aka Peter) was able to travel with a wife?  Didn't the prophets Isaiah and Ezekiel mention wives?  David was described as a prophet in the NT and had many wives. 

No, the reason the prophet Jeremiah was given to not take a wife is that everyone was about to face slaughter and war, so there wasn't any point in pursuing a wife or rearing children.  Why work to find the wife and children who were about to be slaughtered anyway? Let's keep in mind that the prophet got this idea, somehow, and apparently acted on it.  There probably aren't any conferences for American Christians about how if you observe how much disaster is about to befall the United States that's a reason to not marry or have children.  The prohibition was grounded not necessarily directly on the level of danger in the prophet's activity but in the desolation that was planned for a disobedient Israel.  As for Ezekiel and his wife, God ordered the man to not weep for the death of his own wife.  As for the prophet Jeremiah, he wouldn't take long within the pages of his book regret the day he was born and lament that everyone hated him.  This was not a guy who was at perfect peace with his singleness. 

So why would Christians today in the United States take seriously some ideas about singleness that are so swiftly and readily debunked?  Not sure.

Another curiosity I have encountered is what I might call the straight biological destiny of horniness.  A single guy once shared that he knew he needed to be married because he wasn't gifted for singleness and the reason he wasn't gifted for singleness was obvious, that he ever felt horny in his life, ever, basically.  But this is hardly prima facie evidence that one must be married.  And yet among Christians there is a sense in which sexuality is only a positive if it is within marriage.  The double bind this can put men and women in who aren't married probably needs no explanation. 

Conversely, in some circles, it was possible to define and condone any sexual desire for one's spouse as above board by definition. In my Mars Hill days I recall seeing people say that it was simply not possible to lust after a person's spouse because lust was sinful sexual desire.  Reframe the entire concept as inordinate desire beyond the value of the subject of desire (or object) and lust is entirely possible for one's spouse.  In fact even among practicing evangelicals lust might even be considered a kind of prerequisite for marriage. 

But the thing that has stuck with me in the last year or so is that what Christians may not stop to consider, what anyone in the modern United States may not stop to consider, is that there's a trade-off in everything, there's a loser in any criteria we might pick.  In the past a sexual relationship might be socially acceptable if it was codified by two clans for the sake of a good business arrangement and it brought together a man and a woman who might not have any romantic or erotic affections for each other.  Cue the great Monty Python joke, "Why wouldn't you want to marry her!?  She's got ... huge ... tracts .... of land." We don't want that these days.  We want a mutual spark.  We want both parties to want to be together in a hot and heavy kind of way.

But lately it seems as though we don't quite get what price may come with that.  When the measure of a proper pairing is mutual sexual admiration then how surprised should we be that a brand of lingerie will take up as its tagline "What is sexy?"  Still less that it may become one of the cultural arbiters of defining "hotness".  We should not be entirely stunned that our society disproportionately rewards the sexy, whoever may meet that cultural definition.  If in the past an injustice of socially endorsed sexual pairing was that good business was not necessarily true romance we may have another culturally ingrained and equally unavoidable inequality, that in the genetic lottery not all people are born with the same level of "sexy".

What's particularly striking to read in feminist criticism of evolutionary psychology is how so many of the proposals for what males find desirable look astonishingly-but-inevitably like just-so stories about what straight men find sexy right now.  That is a point worth considering, really.  But it's also worth considering that it's not just women who are considered hot who may be disproportionally compensated for simply looking a certain way and meeting a certain standard.  What kind of money do professional athletes rake in these days?  The Superbowl star, the supermodel and the megachurch pastor may all be separately symptomatic of rewarding a particular extremity that exemplifies what we aspire to in one quarter or another for male and female. 

What may be different about our society compared to the societies of the past is that if you were considered unmarriageable material because of a physical defect, a lack of financial or social standing, or want of opportunity, there might actually be things for you to do.  Sure, you might get consigned to a monastery or the military but there'd be some role within the culture found for you to play.  There might not have to be an existential crisis over the simple fact that for whatever reasons you have not said "I do" or have not gotten laid.  Your destiny might not have been your own but that had some consolation to it, in its way. 

As we approach Valentine's day there may be any number of single Christians who want to know why they don't have that special someone and may rail against the injustice of the way things are.  Ecclesiastes, after all, has warned us not to be shocked by the sight of injustice because, after all, one lord is under another who is under still another.  Don't be surprised that in the realm of the sexual there are losers because in any metric of success there will always be a failure.  Tom Petty has a song with a chorus that says even the losers get lucky sometimes.  But the song resonates because "sometimes" is the highest rate we usually see.

We might not harm ourselves if we keep in mind that every society will have its losers and that the definition of the loser may vary but that this doesn't mean we don't define someone out when we define who's in.  Single people on Valentine's day wishing they had a special someone may or may not think past the lonely night itself to trials of other sorts. Parents who watch their children die or deal with untreatable physical limitations are probably not feeling like they won the lottery just because at least THEY'RE married and at least THEY get to have sex.  There's a kind of heartbreak that's possible in married life and as a parent that's inconceivable (or nearly) to many a single person.  Those who covet married life and romance for what they perceive to be its rewards may be oblivious to its burdens.  And those who may see the burdens in one sphere may not recognize how far-reaching a desire can be in having a life of its own.

An old college friend of mine told me she visited a college reunion, of sorts.  She saw few people there, most of whom were mothers.  She was considering how sad it was that these women had dozens of children in tow and they all had careers that could have amounted to something.  Perhaps being too cynical I replied that once these people crossed the threshold of wanting a romantic partner of any kind their fate was sealed.  There is a kind of narcissistic sentimentality to erotic attachment we can have in our culture.  If you want a special someone for how you feel then you want that feeling for yourself and "maybe" for "them".  This friend of mine has had a boyfriend for quite some time, which is fine, and yet to be a bit of a gadfly I thought I would point out that the boundary between wanting a boyfriend or girlfriend at all and wanting to be a parent is not necessarily impermeable.  We cross one threshold and may find that we are not content to stay on the side of what turns out to be the gateway to a new threshold.  A man or a woman who seeks happiness in the arms of another may seek the happiness of the arms of another, a child rather than a lover.  Desire may be all the more merciless a master if we always insist it must be obeyed.

But being wanted, obviously,  has its price. What we're less able to celebrate, in any of these spheres of relationship, is that the moment you become truly needed is the moment and space in which that relationship can and will feel like a prison to you.  When someone needs you, literally or figuratively, that's when you may feel you've become stuck and by then you may be stuck, imprisoned in the embrace of who and what you most eagerly sought out.  It may well be that we want the opportunity without having to pay its costs.  For many an evangelical single I've begun to suspect that this may flare up most pointedly and poignantly on Valentine's day when many a single wishes he or she had that special someone or perhaps would settle for some variation of constituent fragment of the perceived benefits thereof.  Plenty of people feel stymied by how, now that they've got someone, they should best celebrate the day.

What we have gained through a society in which mutuality and consent becomes the basis for normalized sexual relationships is a great deal of good that comes with a different price than the norms in which reproduction and sustainability of family estates were of primary value; the price for that good gained through mutuality and consent is that anybody, at any time, can tell you no.  There's a sense in which the critique of a rape culture as one predicated on the idea that men have a right to sex must be a critique of the more fundamental idea that anyone has a reproductive "right" at all.  If consent and mutuality are the foundation for sexual relationships we endorse and embrace (and they should be) then all sex that isn't forced will necessarily be a negotiated privilege rather than a right, a privilege that we must continue to renegotiate in spite of what might appear to be rights, and it will necessarily be contingent.  We have gained a society in which people who don't wish to marry won't be forced to marry each other for the sake of preserving family estates and trades but we've gained it at the price of a society in which a lot of single people will feel miserable because they haven't yet convinced someone to voluntarily spend Valentine's Day with them and this is what would be the highest emotional state in human experience, maybe.  Let's playfully suggest that the injustice inherent in this trade-off is that those people are the ones who are not only considered the losers in this game but who will self-identify as losers for precisely that reason. And the striking thing is that nobody who has "won" the game ever needs to identify the losers as losers for the losers to self-identify themselves. 

So when we celebrate the successfully negotiated mutual erotic bond on a certain day, we're going to see that not everyone can or will win that lottery.  Or even if a person wins, time and gravity defeat us all.  In the end the flower of youth, however dazzlingly beautiful, will inevitably fade.  Everyone dies at some point. The star athlete or model who exemplifies the impossible standard of beauty won't be able to embody that standard for long and probably couldn't even do so without a huge support team that may or may not be observed when someone is beholding a subject or object of desire alone.  When we prize mutuality and consent we do prize good things, of course, but with that prizing we may not always be happy with the reality that once we extoll the greatness of two people getting together who find each other sexy that institutions and individuals are capable of arbitrating the public imagination about what sexy is and may come up with answers that may leave us out in the cold.  If Ecclesiastes is even half right about this particular matter of injustice we may be offended but we should not be shocked.  It's not like it was going to be any other way. 

Monday, February 10, 2014

Mark Driscoll's eye twitch, naturopath and reverse-engineering life since 2005

In chapter 11 of Real Marriage Mark Driscoll recounts how preaching five services a Sunday took a toll on him. He refers to having worn out his adrenal glands and gotten himself an ulcer and how he was preaching up to five services a Sunday (that would have been most likely for holiday services since on average it seemed that four was more usual, though around 2004-2005 there could have been up to two or three Good Friday services and probably five Easter services for an Easter weekend, so the number of services Driscoll and all the other staff and volunteers were at could and did get ridiculously high).

Real Marriage: the truth about sex, friendship & life together
Mark and Grace Driscoll
Thomas Nelson
(c) 2012 by On Mission, LLC
ISBN 978-1-4041-8352-0 (ie)
page 208

I had multiple stress-related symptoms--heartburn, headaches, nervous eye twitch, aggressive driving, constant low-level anger, high blood pressure, and self-medicating with foods and drinks packed with fat, sugar, and simple carbohydrates, along with caffeine.

Perhaps a few months after things had reached this level, a godly friend in the church, named Jon, scheduled a meeting with me. God had laid it on his heart to speak some wisdom into my life. He did so with great humility, and in that meeting he gave me some insights that were life changing.  [emphasis added]

Jon had been taking notes on how he organized his life, things he had learned, and what he felt the Holy Spirit had asked him to tell me. His wisdom was a priceless gift. He called it "Reverse Engineering." The big idea is to anticipate life forward and live it backward. 

... For my health I found a doctor named John who was a naturopath and ordained pastor and started doing what he told me to do, which has changed my life. 

So let's consider exactly when "Reverse Engineering" got developed. 
http://wbmason.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/reverse-engineering_your_life.pdf
Reverse-Engineering Your Life
(c) 2005 by Mark Driscoll and Jon Phelps.

So Mark credits Jon Phelps with the idea but gets first billing in the copyright?  Interesting.  Let's keep in mind that date because Reverse-Engineering Your Life ended up being the first session at the 2005 Mars Hill Men's Training Camp:

http://marshill.com/files/theology/1/Mens%20Training%20-%20Mars%20Hill%20-%202006%20Reverse%20Engineering.pdf



A portion of this reverse-engineering process involves managing physical health. So it's possible that from 2005 on there began a process of Mark Driscoll seeking medical advice for his health.  As noted before, in an interview at Christianity Today Mark Driscoll mentions how he found a second naturopath after the first one told him he needed to quit his job and how got to that first naturopath:

http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2014/january/survivor.html

...  Put my head down, worked seven days a week. I preached, gosh, 48 or 50 Sundays a year, five or six times a Sunday, an hour or more per sermon. And I traveled to speak, to make ends meet, because I was still supplementing my income. I didn't even have a full-time assistant until we hit 6,000. And by then my wife and I had five kids.

It was go, go, go, and at some point my body just couldn't go anymore. I once had an old car and the ignition would get stuck. You'd have to literally pop the hood and disconnect the battery to make it stop. I was like that car. I couldn't shut down. I couldn't sleep. I'd fall asleep for an hour, wake up, and then be up all night. I'd be exhausted but unable to sleep. I had adrenal fatigue.

What finally happened?

First I went to a conventional doctor, who told me I needed blood pressure meds, heartburn medicine, sleep medicine, anxiety medicine. I'm like, Man, I'm in my 30s. That's a lot of medicine! [emphasis original] So I went and found a naturopathic doctor, who said, "You need to quit your job and find a different vocation."
 
http://www.christianitytoday.com/le/2014/january/survivor.html?start=2

I said, "Well, Jesus said to do this, so that's not really an option."  So I found another naturopathic doctor. He gave me supplements, vitamins, minerals, IV treatments for adrenal support, and custom tailored vitamins. He put me on a regimen for wellness and recovery. His approach was to naturally rebuild the body, to not just treat the symptoms. He told me, "You've got to work really hard to change your lifestyle and your organization, everything."

So it looks like by Mark Driscoll's account when his health was in trouble he went to a conventional doctor, was disappointed at the level of medications he would be prescribed and opted to consult a naturopath instead.  When the naturopath told him he needed to quit his job Mark Driscoll opted to consult another naturopath who diagnosed him as having adrenal trouble.

Now it may be this second naturopath Mark Driscoll makes reference to in early 2007:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070320075759/http://theresurgence.com/md_blog_2007-03-17_of_brokenness_and_buddies

I write this blog while flying somewhere over the United States late on a Thursday night heading home from a conference in the great nation of Texas. I have blogged very little thus far in 2007 as I have been playing hurt in terms of my health. I have been pushing it for ten years since Mars Hill Church opened up, and the end of last year was a particularly rough patch. I was looking forward to a few weeks off after Christmas to catch up on sleep. Sadly, what happened is that I would be very tired and go to bed at a decent hour only to wake up a few hours later, unable to return to sleep. I was not stressed out or thinking, but it seemed something was physically wrong. Even sleeping pills were of little to no help and by the end of the holidays I was exhausted, having slept an average of perhaps three hours a night. A naturopath said I had overextended myself and worn out my adrenal glands (which regulate my sympathetic nervous system). [emphasis added]

This would probably have had to have to transpired somewhere between April 2006 and we'll get to an account from Mark Driscoll that says things reached a low ebb in 2006 later.  There's no mention of the concept adrenal failure in Confessions of a Reformission Rev, which was published in April 2006, and no mention of naturopaths that spring to mind.  The phrase "reverse-engineer" does show up in reference to Jamie Munson and Tim Smith so it would make sense that this term could show up in the 2006 book if Driscoll and Phelps had copyrighted "reverse engineering your life" in 2005.

Now, finally, we get to the eye twitch.  Driscoll mentioned in Real Marriage that one of his symptoms was an eye twitch.  While a reader could infer this happened when Driscoll was preaching five services a day, Driscoll has provided ample evidence that the eye twitch significantly predates services in Ballard in 2003.  That he was running ragged and in poor health for a lengthy period of time could be easily established and it was, by Driscoll's own account, he had many of the symptoms he described in chapter 11 of Real Marriage going as far back as 1999.

Confessions of a Reformission Rev
Mark Driscoll
Zondervan
(c) copyright 2006 by Mark Driscoll

pages 122-123

...  During this difficult season, I was burned-out, overworked, out of shape, stressed, and had picked up a nervous eye twitch in my eye along with ongoing acid reflux and high blood pressure. I was not sleeping much [emphasis added], and my sleep was often interrupted due to stress that kept me awake, thinking. I would also often wake up after a prophetic dream or spiritual attack to pray strategically, which only contributed to the fatigue. ...

This would have been in the period of about 1999, and was also what was happening in Driscoll's health before he had the worst experience of his life, the nightmare discussed elsewhere at this blog.
The health problems Driscoll mentions as showing up at the time when he was preaching up to five sermons a Sunday were showing up significantly earlier before Mars Hill was even in the property now known as the Ballard campus.  So Mark Driscoll's account should not be construed as being very picky about details and linearity.  It is also possible, since Driscoll and Jon Phelps copyrighted "reverse-engineering your life" in 2005.

And yet for that copyrighted document by November 8, 2007 Mark Driscoll was informing Mars Hill Church:
http://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/elders-response-to-questions-11-9-07.pdf

A letter from Pastor Mark Driscoll
November 8, 2007


By the age of twenty-four we were gathering the core group for the church plant while I was working part-time at Antioch Bible Church and a Christian bookstore that was open in Greenwood at the time.  Joining me in the plant were two godly men named Mike Gunn and Lief Moi who were very much devoted to the work and, although young and inexperienced, I praised God for the support of those men who remain friends to this day by God's grace.

At the age of twenty-five I had the privilege of preaching the opening sermon at Mars Hill Church and I have remained the primary preaching pastor ever since. I have learned a lot over the years. Much of that learning has been through mistakes, failure, and pain. The early years of the church, chronicled in my book Confessions, were very difficult in every way. In more recent years, our fast growth has been a wonderful blessing but also fraught with difficulties.

For me personally, everything culminated at the end of 2006. Despite rapid growth, the church was not healthy and neither was I. My workload was simply overwhelming. I was preaching five times a Sunday, the senior leader in Mars Hill responsible to some degree for literally everything in the church, president of the Acts 29 Church Planting Network which had exploded, president of The Resurgence, an author writing books, a conference speaker traveling, a media representative doign interviews, a student attending graduate school, a father with five young children, and a husband to a wife whom I have adored since the first day I met her and needed my focus more than ever. I was working far too many hours and neglecting my own physical and spiritual well-being, and then I hit the proverbial wall. For many weeks I simply could not sleep more than two or three hours a night. I had been running off of adrenaline for so many years that my adrenal glands fatigued and the stress of my responsibilities caused me to be stuck "on" physically and unable to rest or sleep. [emphasis added]  ...

And yet there were by-laws in place that decentralized a lot of activities and accounted for campus activity.  Site elders were accounted for in the by-laws that were available up until the ones Munson drafted in 2007 that got voted through.  If Driscoll was president of The Resurgence how did that become Resurgence Publishing Inc?  Was it a for-profit way back then?  With Driscoll as President of Acts 29, that just raises the question of how and when Driscoll ended up taking over A29 and when David Nicholas departed.  After all, Nicholas was a co-founder.  Driscoll used to joke that guys who went to seminary didn't have real world experience so what was the process through which Driscoll began to care about formal credentialing? The point is that the Driscoll letter lists all the hugely stressful things as though these were not all things that Mark Driscoll voluntarily took on that he either didn't have any real need to do or could have, in some cases, have left delegated to other people in some fashion.  A significant stretch of the end of Confessions detailed how Mark Driscoll entrusted other men in leadership at Mars Hill to take on the things he couldn't handle any longer, like Bent Meyer taking on counseling.  In other words, it's mysterious how and why Mark Driscoll felt any obligation to keep doing all these things, few of which he actually probably needed to do. 

And when Driscoll relates that he went to a convention doctor we can't know precisely when that was.  But we know he decided he didn't want to take so many medications and then turned to a naturopath.  When the naturopath told him he needed to quit his job Mark Driscoll went back to the divine command/calling and then found another naturopath who told him to change his lifestyle and prescribed vitamins, supplements and other things.  Driscoll has practically conveyed to us that when he realized his health was in a bad way he went through at least two medical practitioners before he got to one who told him something he was willing to agree with.  Yes, Driscoll has regaled us for years with stories of his travails but it's worth asking how many of them have been self-inflicted.

And it's worth noting that to go by Mark Driscoll's November 2007 letter, things got to be their worst in 2006, the year after Mark Driscoll and Jon Phelps copyrighted "Reverse-Engineering Your Life" in 2005. And as we've seen, it was a prominent feature in the 2006 Men's Training Event.  And yet while Mark Driscoll was talking to men about how important it was to reverse-engineer life it now appears both from the November 2007 letter and from Real Marriage, that Mark Driscoll himself had not actually pulled off reverse-engineering his own life yet. The method may have worked for Jon Phelps just fine, we can't know for sure, but it looks like Mark Driscoll may have taken up to two years to get it working in a fashion that he came to feel was satisfactory.  For that matter, as we've noted earlier by looking at a 2007 sermon in light of documents that were made available at Joyful Exiles, the stress and controversy weren't over even a month later, it seems. To go by his sermon from December 9, 2007, "The Rebel's Guide to Joy in Anxiety", Mark Driscoll wasn't out of the woods even then possibly two years after copyrighting "Reverse-Engineering Your Life" with Jon Phelps.

Sunday, February 09, 2014

Where are they now part 6C: Driscoll interviews Tim Smith in 2008 about his ten years at MH

In the first part of part 6 we looked at how Mark Driscoll informed Tim Smith God gave him a dream that Smith would be coming and this was why Driscoll put so much time and effort into cultivating Smith as a leader.  Tim Smith's account of this is in the 2011 film God's Work, Our Witness and is discussed over at this blog post:

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2013/11/where-are-they-now-part-6-tim-smith.html

It also turned out that Mark Driscoll stated at marshill.fm he had a dream in which Brad Currah was leading worship and repeatedly informed Brad that this was what was going to transpire.  That will be the subject of another post.  What we'll visit here in this post is the transition from Brad Currah to Tim Smith in leading music. 

CONFESSIONS OF A REFORMISSION REV
MARK DRISCOLL
(C) 2006 BY MARK DRISCOLL
ZONDERVAN
ISBN-13:978-0-310-27016-4
ISBN-10:0-310-27016-2


CHAPTER FIVE, 350-1,000 PEOPLE
page 135
We had to quickly reorganize all of our systems and staff.  Our administrative pastor, Eric, left, which we all recognized was God's call on him.  And our worship leader was a great guy and great musician but was unable to coordinate the multiple bands in the three locations, so we let him go. This was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made because he was a very godly man who had worked very hard and would have been fine if the church had not gotten so crazy so quickly, and he and his very sweet wife were both close personal friends of mind. But I needed a worship pastor who could lead mltiple bands, coordinate multiple services in multiple locations, and train multiple worship pastors while keeping up with a church that was growing so fast that we had no idea exactly where it was going. I had no one who could possibly fill this role but felt compelled to wait until God let me know, so I just left a gaping hole in our leadership to create a crisis that would force a leader to emerge. 

So this would suggest that Driscoll and other leaders at Mars Hill found Brad Currah to have been inadequate to the task of organizing multiple bands at three campuses and he was let go.  Currah would eventually be replaced with Tim Smith. 

http://theresurgence.com/authors/tim-smith

Tim Smith came to Mars Hill Church in the summer of 1999, never having owned an electric guitar, been in a band, or written a song. Somehow, by God’s grace, he became the worship pastor there and has been able to hang on and give shape to a movement of well over 30 worship bands leading many campuses. Tim is the husband of Beth and the father of three daughters. He also leads Re:Sound, a missional network of music and artists here on the Resurgence.

There's no a sign of Re:Sound anywhere save through visitations by means of a cache or The WayBack Machine.

http://web.archive.org/web/20110826020521/http://resound.org/
http://web.archive.org/web/20120116185724/http://resound.org/
In fact Re:Sound was not the talk of the town within Mars Hill by March 2012.  Driscoll wwas talking with Jon Dunn about Mars Hill starting a record label.

http://marshill.com/2012/05/02/were-starting-a-record-label-pastor-mark-interviews-jon-dunn

By this time Smith was transitioning into being a campus pastor at Mars Hill Portland, if memory serves, and by the start of January 2013 what Mark Driscoll had said was going to be the launch of a Mars Hill music label turned into Mars Hill partnering with Tooth & Nail Records.

http://marshill.com/2013/01/15/mars-hill-music-is-partnering-with-tooth-nail

But let's backtrack to how Tim Smith transitioned into leading music and worship at Mars Hill because while Mark Driscoll mentioned in Confessions that he and other leaders decided to let the former worship leader go there's no account of how Tim Smith was brought in and who was involved in that in books.  There is, however, a video interview between Mark Driscoll and Tim Smith. 

http://theresurgence.com/2008/10/04/interview-with-tim-smith
October 4, 2008

Pastor Mark Driscoll here from Mars Hill Church and President of The Resurgence with my good buddy, dear friend, and fellow elder at Mars Hill  Tim Smith.

So in 2008 there was The Resurgence and Mark Driscoll described himself as the president.  Whether it's the thing that became Resurgence Publishing Inc is something that can be left to the initiative of others to clarify for now.  Whatever The Resurgence was, Mark was it's president and in this interview he refers to Tim Smith having been at Mars Hill or connected to it for ten years. 

starting around 02:36
TS:
I ended up in St. Louis, MO, of all places. I had a friend there who asked me if I wanted to come work for a church and a Lutheran church, actually, over there. And halfway through my 18 months there I went to a conference in Santa Fe, NM where I met you for the first time.


MD: [speaking while TS is still speaking] That's where we met. 
MD: Yeah, I was teaching at a con, and that was how many years ago? ... Nine?

TS: Ten. Ten, because I showed up at Mars Hill in August of `99.
MD: Yeah, and you and Beth lived with Grace and I for a couple months. You guys were relocating to Seattle
TS: Yeah ... has anyone else just moved here, moved into your house?
MD: It's happened before. [TS laughs]  Usually we have to get a restraining order. It worked out pretty good, uh, so you guys moved up to Seattle just to hang out, just to serve. We didn't have a staff position, we didn't have any money. Mars Hill was what, 150, 200 people then?
TS: It was two years old, 200 people. The height of my ambition was to come and get back to the Northwest. I wanted to get out of the Midwest. I wanted to be at a church with people that loved Jesus that were my age because I wasn't around that in the Midwest. ...

The last thing I thought I would be when I came here was a pastor. I was not in good shape, my marriage was not in good shape. I had no idea what it meant to be a husband, biblically. There was a lot of hidden sin in my life, it was just a mess. ...

So far the narrative is pretty standard fare, man comes to the Northwest with a troubled marriage and no clear sense of how to be a proper man until he witnesses the example of proper manliness at Mars Hill.  What seems to have happened, according to Tim Smith, was he and Mark Driscoll met at a conference in 1998 in New Mexico.  For those who may not remember this detail, 1998 up through the start of 1999 seems to have been, by Mark Driscoll's account the eighth season in the history of Mars Hill:

http://web.archive.org/web/20001210191200/http://www.marshill.fm/who/our_history.htm
Seasons of Grace: The Story of Mars Hill
By Pastor Mark Driscoll

... In the eighth season, our worship ministry was in great disarray and I had a dream that Brad Currah, who had been a member of our core group before the launch, was leading worship. I repeatedly informed Brad that he was to be our worship leader and after numerous conversations he began volunteering time overseeing the worship and arts ministries. Brad had spent a few years playing the club scene with his band Springchamber, but was quickly overwhelmed with the demands of his first time pastorate and quit his job at Microsoft to free up time for ministry and hoped to live off of his wife Devonna's salary. But, she soon became pregnant and needed to quit her job. I then got a call from a pastor in Florida who had a network that funded church plants. Grace and I met with Pastor David Nicholas at Spanish River Church, and his church planting network agreed to help us financially. This gift allowed us to bring Brad on full-time, which has culminated in a fantastic independent worship album, multiple worship teams, and an aggressive set of new songs written by some of our many gifted artists.
This was when Mark Driscoll said he had a dream of Brad Currah leading worship and repeatedly informed Currah he was to be the Mars Hill Church worship leader.  But apparently during this same season Mark Driscoll met Tim Smith at a conference in New Mexico.

Confessions of a Reformission Rev
Mark Driscoll, Zondervan 2006
Excerpts from page 146-148
...
I first met Tim [Smith] while teaching at a conference in New Mexico for Leadership Network. He had been raised in a Baptist home in Portland and was working as a youth worship leader at a Lutheran church in Missouri. Tim and his wife, Beth, moved to Seattle simply hoping that Tim would become a guitar player in one of our worship teams. Tim and his wife lived with Grace and me for a few months until they got settled, and I saw in Tim some very strong leadership qualities that had not been cultivated. So I spent a lot of time investing in Tim, as I was with Jamie. Tim had never played in a band, written a song, or played an electric guitar. Additionally, he did not know how to sing, and it sounded like he'd been hit by a car when he tried to hit high notes.
So Driscoll had met Smith at a conference for Leadership Network some time in 1998. 

For sake of review, let's go back to what Tim Smith said in the film God's Work, Our Witness about how and why Mark Driscoll literally and figuratively invested in his being a leader at Mars Hill:
http://marshill.com/media/gods-work-our-witness/gods-work-our-witness

Pastor Tim: Years later, I would ask Mark, I asked him, “Why in the world did you do that? Because I’m pretty sure you haven’t just taken anybody else in, and I’m not sure I would exactly the same way, either.” And he said that he had a dream that God told him that I was moving here, and we were supposed to work together. I had no idea what was in store, but apparently God did.

Now let's get back to the 2008 interview where Mark Driscoll talks with Tim Smith about the period in which Tim Smith ascended to leadership of music at Mars Hill Church:

http://theresurgence.com/2008/10/04/interview-with-tim-smith
from about 5:30

MD: At the time we were at a place as a church that things were very disorganized, very loose. We had a number of good musicians but we didn't have any good leadership to really put it all together.  I remember you came into my office one day and said, "Give me the whole department, music and worship [TS smiles and nods] Let me give it a shot and if I do a good job then bring my on staff and if I don't do a good job then don't bring me on staff. [emphasis added] But at that point ... I don't think you ever played an electric guitar.
TS: Hnn-nn [shakes his head]
MD: You had never played in a band
TS: [smiling] No
MD: And, dude, I love you but you know you could not sing.
TS: Yeah, I was not a good singer.
MD: You know it sounded like you got captured by al-Qaeda [TS laughs] It was terrible. So I was, like, "Okay, you want to run the music department
... but you were a really good leader and I had a really, really, I loved you and had a good friendship with you and just felt like we were brothers right off the beginning of the relationship, and saw in you good teaching ability, love for the Bible, good leadership, you do have a sweet wife and you guys were getting your life put together. And so you took it and the first thing you did was fire everybody and cancelled everything. [TS laughs], bought an electric guitar, got vocal lessons  [TS laughs], put some things together. So you've been with us, then, for ten years.

So Tim Smith, by Mark Driscoll's account in a 2008 interview with Tim Smith, directly petitioned Mark Driscoll to give him complete control over the entire music department.  At precisely this point, however, Mark Driscoll noted that Tim Smith had virtually no demonstrable musical competence.  What Driscoll knew about Smith from their first meeting at a conference in New Mexico with Leadership Network, was that Tim Smith was, well, interested in leadership stuff.  People who attend leadership conferences could be construed as self-selectively being interested in leading people.  And both Smith and Driscoll seem clear that by October 8, 2008 Tim Smith had had some connection to Mars Hill for a full decade.  Tim Smith also stated that when he arrived Mars Hill Church was two years old.  That would have required an official launch of 1997.  But ...


http://web.archive.org/web/20001210191200/http://www.marshill.fm/who/our_history.htm

In the fourth season, we launched the church in October 1996 at 6pm with an attendance around 200, which included many friends and supporters. The attendance leveled off shortly thereafter, somewhere around 100 adults, and we continued meeting until the Christmas season.

Mark Driscoll said the church launched in October 1996.  Perhaps Tim Smith misremembered things.

About 7 minutes into the 2008 interview Mark Driscoll tells Tim Smith, "The church has really grown with you and, in large part, I think, because of you."  We know that Driscoll credited Tim Smith and Jamie Munson as the two guys with whom he worked to reverse-engineer Mars Hill Church to the size of 3000 people. As in from Confessions p 147-148"

So I began to reverse-engineer a plan for our church to grow to more than three thousand people with help from Jamie and Tim. In the end we decided that what was in the best interest of our mission to the city was not in the best interests of each of our elders. I knew God was compelling me to state the vision to the elders. And I knew that vision would quite possibly split the church three ways between the founders--Lief, Mike, and me. Nonetheless I met with our elders to seek their input on the recommended changes, knowing it could undo all that we had worked so hard to accomplish. We spent a lengthy day going over the proposal, and things were tense.

So as Driscoll put it in 2008, Tim Smith directly advocated to be in charge of music at Mars Hill Church.  The 2011 fundraising film God's Work, Our Witness features Tim Smith saying Mark Driscoll told him that he'd had a dream where God told him Smith was coming there.  Of course in the 2008 account Mark Driscoll says Tim Smith openly sought the role of running worship and music at Mars Hill in spite of the fact that by Driscoll's own account Tim had no obviously demonstrable competence in anything musical.  But we've established that Mark Driscoll knew by this time from having met Smith in 1998 at a conference with Leadership Network that Smith had an interest in leadership of some kind, and Driscoll surmised Smith's leadership potentially vastly outweighed his lack of musical competence.  So Driscoll paid for Smith to have music lessons and get his first electric guitar. 

What Driscoll tells Smith about 7 minutes into the 2008 interview is this, "The church has really grown with you and, in large part, I think, because of you."

So let's review, by Driscoll's account he let Brad Currah go (though he didn't directly name him) because it was believed Currah was not keeping things organized once Mars Hill had gone multi-site.  Rather than directly appoint a replacement Driscoll decided to intentionally leave the music situation in chaos to see who would rise to the top. That's the Confessions version.

But in the 2008 interview Mark Driscoll tells Tim Smith that Smith directly petitioned to run music for a short period of time and that if things went well to bring him on staff.  Driscoll then states that the first thing Tim did when he was put in charge was fire everybody and cancel everything.  Was this during the period after which Tim Smith was formally put on paid staff or did Tim Smith do all this firing as a volunteer?  By whose authority?  In any case, both Smith and Driscoll agreed in October 2008 that they had known each other for ten years, which means the two would have met in 1998.  Driscoll's dream about Smith coming to Seattle would have happened between that Leadership Network conference in 1998 and the Smiths' arrival in 1999.  Roughly during this period of time, it seems, Driscoll was grooming Brad Currah to be worship leader at Mars Hill and Mark and Grace Driscoll even went so far as to petition David Nicholas to provide funds through which Brad Currah would be able to be paid a salary.  And during this time, it seems, Mark Driscoll had some dream about Tim Smith, at least according to Tim Smith's account of Driscoll's words in the 2011 film God's Work, Our Witness.

Smith's account in the film is quite a bit more passive than Driscoll's account of his activity in the 2008 interview.  The fundraising film features Smith giving an account in which he wonders why Driscoll would have invested so much in him being a leader at Mars Hill when he had no musical background.  By contrast, the account Mark Driscoll gives Tim Smith in the 2008 interview, with Tim Smith nodding and laughing at regular intervals, is that they met at a conference in 1998 and that Tim took a considerable amount of initiative to seek control of music and worship at Mars Hill and this before he had any competency in music yet. 

So there you have it.  It forms a cohesive narrative with different emphases depending on time and place and is vetted directly by the two primary participants, Mark Driscoll and Tim Smith.  Now while there are no doubt those who might have reasons to doubt the veracity of what Driscoll and Smith might say that's not really what is germane to this post, which is to establish what Driscoll and Smith have cumulatively said about Smith's rise in the period in which Brad Currah was apparently let go. 

POSTSCRIPT:
It would seem that by Tim Smith's account in a video posted September 28, 2013 that he was the first worship pastor at Mars Hill Church, as though there was never a person named Brad Currah in the history of Mars Hill and that if there was he wasn't a worship pastor.

... I first came to Mars Hill in August of 1999. That was almost fourteen years ago. At that point in time it was about 200 people in a rented space and has grown to be an amazing movement since then. I was the first worship pastor at the church and I served for many years. ...
 
Tim Smith arriving in August of 1999 meant he arrived shortly after Mark Driscoll had recruited Brad Currah to lead worship (by at least one of Driscoll's accounts) and after Mark and Grace Driscoll had sought aid from David Nicholas to ensure Currah would have a salary to lead worship.
 
 
In the eighth season, our worship ministry was in great disarray and I had a dream that Brad Currah, who had been a member of our core group before the launch, was leading worship. I repeatedly informed Brad that he was to be our worship leader and after numerous conversations he began volunteering time overseeing the worship and arts ministries. Brad had spent a few years playing the club scene with his band Springchamber, but was quickly overwhelmed with the demands of his first time pastorate and quit his job at Microsoft to free up time for ministry and hoped to live off of his wife Devonna's salary. But, she soon became pregnant and needed to quit her job. I then got a call from a pastor in Florida who had a network that funded church plants. Grace and I met with Pastor David Nicholas at Spanish River Church, and his church planting network agreed to help us financially. This gift allowed us to bring Brad on full-time, which has culminated in a fantastic independent worship album, multiple worship teams, and an aggressive set of new songs written by some of our many gifted artists.
 
Whether or not Tim Smith was the first worship pastor at Mars Hill might depend on how literally and stringently one defines titles. 

Where are they now Part 6B: Mark Driscoll's accounts of Brad Currah's role in MH music

Back in a comment at a blog post that can be read here someone asked how and where Currah transitioned out.  That is a highly relevant question and it would be difficult to find someone more capable of addressing that question than Mark Driscoll himself, since he actually wrote about the transition in his 2006 book.  He also wrote there about how Brad came to have a prominent role in leading music which is ... interesting ... because the Confessions account credits Brad with taking initiative in MH music significantly earlier in the history of MH than the "Seasons of Grace" account Mark Driscoll published at marshill.fm some time around 1999.

CONFESSIONS OF A REFORMISSION REV
MARK DRISCOLL
(C) 2006 BY MARK DRISCOLL
ZONDERVAN
ISBN-13:978-0-310-27016-4
ISBN-10:0-310-27016-2
CHAPTER TWO, 45-75 PEOPLE

page 68

And we finally landed a good worship leader. Brad was a godly guy with a nice wife, who fronted a local band that was big in the club-scene heyday of flannel-wearing grunge gods like Nirvana and Pearl Jam.  Following one particularly dreadful Sunday worship set by a well-intended guy whose singing sounded like he was being electrocuted, Brad had had enough and asked to take over the worship. He soon showwed up with a bunch of guys from his band who smelled like cigarettes, including a guy with long hair and another guy with tattoos.  So things looked very promising.


Let's keep in mind that it's in the start of Chapter Three, which Driscoll helpfully indexes as attendance of 75-1500 people) that Mark Driscoll mentions, "A few weeks before we launched our little church plant in the fall of 1996, I was perplexed by an older man who had become something of a mentor to me."

In other words, by Mark Driscoll's account Brad asked to take over worship/music for the nascent church plant before it was even officially launched. Let's look back through The WayBack Machine to another account by Mark Driscoll of how Brad Currah ended up being worship pastor.

http://web.archive.org/web/20001210191200/http://www.marshill.fm/who/our_history.htm
Seasons of Grace: The Story of Mars Hill
By Pastor Mark Driscoll


... In the third season, we began a small Bible study in graciously loaned space from Emmanuel Bible Church in Seattle. The original small core of about a dozen people was a Bible study comprised largely of twenty-somethings from the college group, the Gunn and Moi families, and Chris Knutzen who had joined the Campus Crusade for Christ staff at the U.W. We began meeting weekly in an extremely hot upstairs youth room, and after a few months outgrew the space and began meeting in the sanctuary. It was during this season that the rest of our current elders - the Browns, Currahs and Schlemleins - and some singles and families joined us. It was also during this season that Pastor Ken Hutcherson and our friends at Antioch Bible Church began their generous financial support to cover my salary to ensure that I would not be a financial strain on the young church.

[WtH: let's remind readers at this point that Mark Driscoll has recently said there was no childrens' ministry at MH because there were no kids, a point that is so easily disproven by Mark Driscoll's own testimony about Mike Gunn and Lief Moi as fathers being a reason he co-planted Mars Hill with them it bears repeating.]

In the fourth season, we launched the church in October 1996 at 6pm with an attendance around 200, which included many friends and supporters. The attendance leveled off shortly thereafter, somewhere around 100 adults, and we continued meeting until the Christmas season.

... In the eighth season, our worship ministry was in great disarray and I had a dream that Brad Currah, who had been a member of our core group before the launch, was leading worship. I repeatedly informed Brad that he was to be our worship leader and after numerous conversations he began volunteering time overseeing the worship and arts ministries. Brad had spent a few years playing the club scene with his band Springchamber, but was quickly overwhelmed with the demands of his first time pastorate and quit his job at Microsoft to free up time for ministry and hoped to live off of his wife Devonna's salary. But, she soon became pregnant and needed to quit her job. I then got a call from a pastor in Florida who had a network that funded church plants. Grace and I met with Pastor David Nicholas at Spanish River Church, and his church planting network agreed to help us financially. This gift allowed us to bring Brad on full-time, which has culminated in a fantastic independent worship album, multiple worship teams, and an aggressive set of new songs written by some of our many gifted artists. [emphasis added]

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2013/11/where-are-they-now-part-6-tim-smith.html

We've discussed how Mark Driscoll, according to Tim Smith, explained to Smith that he had a dream from God that said Smith was coming elsewhere.  What we haven't gotten to yet is Mark Driscoll's account of concluding he had to let Brad Currah go. 

CONFESSIONS OF A REFORMISSION REV
CHAPTER FIVE, 350-1,000 PEOPLE

page 135

We had to quickly reorganize all of our systems and staff.  Our administrative pastor, Eric, left, which we all recognized was God's call on him.  And our worship leader was a great guy and great musician but was unable to coordinate the multiple bands in the three locations, so we let him go. This was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made because he was a very godly man who had worked very hard and would have been fine if the church had not gotten so crazy so quickly, and he and his very sweet wife were both close personal friends of mind. But I needed a worship pastor who could lead mltiple bands, coordinate multiple services in multiple locations, and train multiple worship pastors while keeping up with a church that was growing so fast that we had no idea exactly where it was going. I had no one who could possibly fill this role but felt compelled to wait until God let me know, so I just left a gaping hole in our leadership to create a crisis that would force a leader to emerge. 
 
From here Driscoll went on to mention insight he was given by his friend Jon Phelps about how in any growing organization there are three types of people, risers, people who attach to risers, and people who don't cut the mustard.  By Driscoll's account he decided to leave a chasm in leadership to create a crisis that would force a leader to emerge. 

This did not, however, preclude Driscoll or others from actively recruiting potential future leaders.
As Driscoll would recount on pages 46-147 the emerging worship leader was Tim Smith who was distinguished by his alleged complete lack of musical competence at every level but whom Driscoll considered to be a dudely dude with leadership potential, and Driscoll decided to literally and figuratively invest in Smith as a leader. 

So it seems that by one of Mark Driscoll's accounts (in 2006) Brad Currah asked to take charge of music at the not-yet-planted Mars Hill Church and that Mark let this happen.  By another account (at marshill.fm via The Wayback Machine) Mark Driscoll declared that in the eighth season music was in disarray (and we see that the church launched in season 4).  Mark Driscoll states he had a dream that Brad was leading worship and recruited him by repeatedly emphasizing this experience. Driscoll even goes so far as to say that he and Grace went to meet David Nicholas to request financial support and that Nicholas' financial support allowed Mars Hill Church to pay Brad Currah a salary.  Then on to the ninth season at the start of 1999.  But by the time of about 2001 it seemed Mark Driscoll concluded that Currah was not able to organize all the bands at the three campuses Mars Hill had at the time and so by Driscoll's account they had to let Brad Currah go.

As for what happened to the other guy about whom Mark Driscoll had a dream, Tim Smith.  Nothing came of the music label Smith was working on called ReSound, it seems.  Tim Smith lead worship and music for years but by 2011 he was a campus pastor en route to Portland.  It's possible that as with other leaders before him, even Brad Currah, the growth of Mars Hill Church may have exceeded Tim Smith's gifts.  By 2006 on The Resurgence Driscoll was beginning to mention the name of someone who would eventually replace Tim Smith, Dustin Kensrue.  But having looked over Mark Driscoll's different accounts of how and why Brad Currah ended up out of leading worship in spite of the apparently divine oracle dream Mark Driscoll had about him, let's turn some attention back to the narrative of the rise of Tim Smith.