Friday, August 08, 2014

in consideration of recent events, a blast from the past: Matt Chandler "A29 was so kind of meshed into Mars Hill that right now we are just trying to untangle where one begins and the other ends"

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/04/chandler-on-mars-hill-a29-was-so-kind.html

Originally published April 24, 2012:

http://www.christianpost.com/news/no-vision-shift-after-mark-driscoll-leaves-acts-29-leadership-73047/
By Alex Murashko

April 11, 2012

Mars Hill Church Pastor Mark Driscoll announced that he was stepping down from the reins of Acts 29 late last month to make room for Chandler, the lead pastor at The Village Church in Highland Village in Texas. Driscoll remains on the organization's current three-member board which also includes The Journey's (St. Louis, Mo.) lead pastor, Darrin Patrick. The group's headquarters will move from Seattle to Dallas.

Driscoll seemed to have left the door open about the possibility he would remove himself from the board if needed for the greater good of the group, he implied in his statement last month about his decision.

"I want him on the board. He's a great advantage to the men, the movement, and the network as a whole," Chandler told CP when asked about Driscoll. "I think culturally and theologically he has some spectacular gifts. Driscoll will absolutely remain on the board. He would gladly step off if he thought that was best for the network. I don't think anybody believes that's best for the network."

... Acts 29 will not only be moving its Seattle-based headquarters to Dallas, but deciding how to continue with its connection to Mars Hill Church, also based in Seattle.

"A29 was so kind of meshed into Mars Hill that right now we are just trying to untangle where one begins and the other ends. We are gathering information right now. Our hope is that A29 is completely in Dallas by September," Chandler said.

"Acts 29 has been primarily funded by and run by Mars Hill," he noted. Chandler estimates that about 80 percent of the organization was funded by the church and it is a matter of deciding on the operational priorities moving forward, including which employee positions to keep.
"Those are some of the questions we are trying to answer even now," he said.

So Matt Chandler has discussed that Acts 29 was so "kind of meshed into Mars Hill" that right now they're trying to untangle where one begins and the other ends.  Chandler told the Christian Post that Mars Hill has been primarily funded by and run by Mars Hill and that 80 percent of the organization was funded by Mars Hill.  Chandler's statements about gathering information might suggest that Acts 29 is trying to figure out just how meshed Mars Hill has been into Acts 29.  At the risk of pointing out the obvious, Chandler's just told us that Mars Hill has pretty much been Acts 29 at the most important leadership levels.  This is easy to verify by consulting the Acts 29 Network website.

Now obviously in light of the April 11, 2012 article in the Christian post the following listings are no longer accurate but they are worth considering because as of today (April 24, 2012) this is the current information that helps illustrate what Chandler was talking about when he said "we are just trying to untangle where one begins and the other ends."

Even if it's not up to date it's something I couldn't ignore or avoid passing on.
From Acts 29 Leadership
1. Mark Driscoll, Founder and President
current executive Elder at Mars Hill
2. Darrin Patrick, Board Member
3. Matt Chandler, Board Member
recently made President of Acts 29 by the other board members and Driscoll
 
4. Dave Bruskas, Board Member
current executive Elder at Mars Hill)
5. Sutton Turner, Board Member
current executive elder at Mars Hill
6. Scott Thomas, Board Member
Former exeuctive elder at Mars Hill, former President of Acts 29 now no longer listed as an elder or even on staff at either organization.  Documentation at Joyful Exiles establish that Jamie Munson announced to Mars Hill elders in 2007 that Scott Thomas was the head of the Elder Investigative Taskforce that established whether Jamie Munson's allegations against Paul Petry and Bent Meyer were credible.
On March 20, 2012 Joyful Exiles went up.
 
On March 28, 2012 Scott Thomas announced he was stepping away from Acts 29.
 
But I wasn’t planning to stay forever. I was anticipating a change for my ministry in the future, and the move to Dallas makes it a perfect time to allow new leadership to emerge.
 
If you attempt to find a current listing of Mars Hill elders you may find the current ministry direction Scott Thomas seems to be in is not being in any ministry at all.  He's not listed as a pastor in any capacity at any Mars Hill website I can find.  The Christian Post article from April 11, 2012 has made it pretty clear Scott Thomas is not on the Acts 29 Board, either. The last name in the six men above is probably the most interesting because he was involved in every stage of the firings of Petry and Meyer.  He has recently written he was anticipating a change for his ministry in the future and, so far, that change has been not being on staff at either Mars Hill or Acts 29 from the look of things. 
Now of these six names listed four of them are men who have been or are executive elders at Mars Hill. That means that at one point two thirds of the Acts 29 Board was chaired by either current or former Mars Hill executive elders.  The meshed nature has not merely covered the Acts 29 board.
From Network Leadership there's a listing for the Acts 29 Northwest Regional Leader, Bill Clem, who is a pastor at Mars Hill Ballard. 
 
For Acts 29 Central
Tyler Powell, listed as Assessment Director for Acts 29 is also listed as Church Planting Pastor for Mars Hill
 
Ryan Kearns, Assessment Coordinator for Acts 29, is listed as a Deacon at Mars Hill, listed contact email is
Matt Aiken, Operations Manager for Acts 29, is listed as a deacon at Mars Hill
 
 Sara Britt, Executive Assistant to Tyler Powell, is listed as a deacon at Mars Hill Church

So not only has it been the case that the Acts 29 Board has been lately dominated by the entire executive elder board of Mars Hill it even included a former Executive Elder who was formerly President of Acts 29.  If four of five board members heading Acts 29 have been present or former executive elders at Mars Hill this does make it easy to understand why Matt Chandler told the Christian Post it was a challenge to figure out where Acts 29 ended and Mars Hill began, or vice versa.

For a sampling of a few captures from the WayBack Machine to help establish at least a little of this history of enmeshment survey the following:


Listings from crawls of the WayBack Machine for
http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/
http://web.archive.org/web/20101202231052/http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/

December 2, 2010
Leadership

Mark Driscoll | Founder & Lead Visionary of Acts 29
Lead Teaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Scott Thomas | President & Director of Acts 29
Global Church Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Darrin Patrick | 1st Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at The Journey in St. Louis, MO
 
Jeff Vanderstelt | 2nd Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Soma Communities in Tacoma, WA


Chan Kilgore | Secretary/Treasurer of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Crosspointe Church in Orlando, FL
 
Matt Chandler | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of The Village Church, Highland Village, TX
"Why I'm Acts 29"

Eric Mason | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship, Philadelphia, PA
 
Tyler Powell | Church Planting Strategist of Acts 29
Church Planting Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Elliot Grudem | Network Coordinator of Acts 29
Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

 
December 26, 2010
http://web.archive.org/web/20101226075244/http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/

Leadership

Mark Driscoll | Founder & Lead Visionary of Acts 29
Lead Teaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Scott Thomas | President & Director of Acts 29
Global Church Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Darrin Patrick | 1st Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at The Journey in St. Louis, MO
 
Jeff Vanderstelt | 2nd Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Soma Communities in Tacoma, WA
 
Chan Kilgore | Secretary/Treasurer of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Crosspointe Church in Orlando, FL

Matt Chandler | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of The Village Church, Highland Village, TX
"Why I'm Acts 29"
 
Eric Mason | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead pastor of Epiphany Fellowship, Philadelphia, PA
 
Tyler Powell | Church Planting Strategist of Acts 29
Church Planting Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Elliot Grudem | Network Coordinator of Acts 29
Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Jul 21, 2011
http://web.archive.org/web/20110721085150/http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/

Acts 29 Leadership
 
Mark Driscoll | Founder & Lead Visionary of Acts 29
Lead Teaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
Bio, Speaking Engagements and Requests
 
Scott Thomas | President of Acts 29
Global Church Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Darrin Patrick | 1st Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at The Journey in St. Louis, MO
 
Jeff Vanderstelt | 2nd Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Soma Communities in Tacoma, WA
 
Chan Kilgore | Secretary/Treasurer of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Crosspointe Church in Orlando, FL
 
Matt Chandler | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of The Village Church in Dallas, TX
"Why I'm Acts 29"
 
Eric Mason | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia, PA
 
 Tyler Powell | Church Planting Strategist of Acts 29
Church Planting Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
 
Elliot Grudem | Director of Acts 29
Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Administrative Support Staff

The administrative staff of the Acts 29 Network are based in Seattle,

Washington. Please visit our FAQ page and our General Contact page for
answers to questions and for office contact information.

Jeremy Pace | Training Coordinator
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Matt Aiken | Executive Assistant to Scott Thomas
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Spencer Abbott | Executive Assistant to Elliot Grudem
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Sara Britt | Executive Assistant to Tyler Powell
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Derrin Thomas | Communications Director
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Adriel Ifland | Managing Editor - Online Content
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


http://web.archive.org/web/20110724223816/http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/

July 24, 2011
http://web.archive.org/web/20110724223816/http://www.acts29network.org/about/leadership/


Leadership & Staff
Acts 29 Regional Leadership
Acts 29 Administrative Support Staff

Acts 29 Leadership

Mark Driscoll | Founder & Lead Visionary of Acts 29
Lead Teaching Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA
Bio, Speaking Engagements and Requests


Scott Thomas | President of Acts 29
Global Church Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Darrin Patrick | 1st Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at The Journey in St. Louis, MO
 
Jeff Vanderstelt | 2nd Vice President of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Soma Communities in Tacoma, WA
 
Chan Kilgore | Secretary/Treasurer of Acts 29
Lead Pastor at Crosspointe Church in Orlando, FL


Matt Chandler | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of The Village Church in Dallas, TX
"Why I'm Acts 29"
 
Eric Mason | Board Member of Acts 29
Lead Pastor of Epiphany Fellowship in Philadelphia, PA


Tyler Powell | Church Planting Strategist of Acts 29
Church Planting Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Elliot Grudem | Director of Acts 29
Pastor at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Administrative Support Staff

The administrative staff of the Acts 29 Network are based in Seattle,

Washington. Please visit our FAQ page and our General Contact page for
answers to questions and for office contact information.

Jeremy Pace | Training Coordinator
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Matt Aiken | Executive Assistant to Scott Thomas
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Spencer Abbott | Executive Assistant to Elliot Grudem
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Sara Britt | Executive Assistant to Tyler Powell
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


Derrin Thomas | Communications Director
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA

Adriel Ifland | Managing Editor - Online Content
Deacon at Mars Hill Church in Seattle, WA


So this month Matt Chandler told The Christian Post, "A29 was so kind of meshed into Mars Hill that right now we are just trying to untangle where one begins and the other ends." This year the Board for Acts 29 came to include every current executive elder from Mars Hill and even a former one.  It's certainly understandable why it would be difficult to figure out where Acts 29 really begins and Mars Hill ends because it could look as though Acts 29, however it began, became functionally inseparable from Mars Hill. 

Chandler said 80 percent of the funding for Acts 29 has come from Mars Hill and earlier this year four out of six members of the Acts 29 Network board of directors were current or former executive elders at Mars Hill; Those executive elders held the roles of President, Vice-President, Treasurer, and Network Director on the Acts 29 board. If 80 percent of the funding and two thirds of the board of directors are all from Mars Hill it's understandable why Chandler would have told the Christian Post it was tough to know where one organization ended and the other began.

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