Monday, December 23, 2024

Paul Kingsnorth at First Things "Against Christian Civilization"

A HT to From Bitter Waters to Sweet for this one.

Paul Kingsnorth has a piece at First Things called “Against Christian Civilization”. He mentions Charles Alexander Eastman (Ohiyesa) a Native American man who trained in medicine and became a Christian and spread the Gospel.  Eastman recounted sharing stories about Jesus with an older Native American man who, reflecting on those stories, said that Jesus sounded like an Indian and not a white man.  So, dear readers, when James Cone suggested Jesus was Black this observation that the Jesus of the Gospels was not a middle-class or well-heeled white American man was not exactly daring or innovative. It’s a sentiment that has run through American thought for centuries.  Kingsnorth quotes Eastman as reaching a radical conclusion late in his life:

It is my personal belief, after thirty-five years experience of it, that there is no such thing as “Christian civilization.” I believe that Christianity and modern civilization are opposed and irreconcilable, and the spirit of Christianity and of our ancient religion is essentially the same.

Now I do wonder about that, to be honest, and while I’ve seen cases made that the Jesus Way and Native American traditions have a lot of overlap a la Randy Woodley I could grant the point was made by Paul at Athens when he saw the altar to the unknown god.  I still hesitate to say that overlap is the same as identity.  Nevertheless, I am curious to read Eastman.  Skepticism about “Christian civilization” is something I can register agreement with even if I have some doubts about other things. 

I had managed to go my whole life having not heard of Eastman but a few of his books are available at Project Gutenberg.  One of his relatives was a Presbyterian minister and now seems good a time as any to point out that there have been Native American Presbyterians just as there have been black Presbyterian ministers such as Frances Grimke (HT to Daniel Kleven who has blogged about the minister).  I have said and written this a few times but, as I get older, I have become more and more grateful my exposure to the Reformed traditions of Christianity came from my Native American dad rather than my white mom (of Okie stock). Kingsnorth has done me the favor of introducing me to someone I’m going to have to read.  I still have a couple of Richard Twiss books I’ve started but not finished yet.  Moving along ..

Kingsnorth mentions several approaches to Christianity and one of them is what he describes as civilizational Christianity, which we could probably as easily call “Christendom”. Christianity is like cultural broccoli and is good for you and there are even types of atheists who are persuaded that what is best about the West has in some way descended from Christian traditions.  There are also men who have books to sell about being grown-up who extoll the wisdom of the Bible from a Jungian approach.  No surprise who swiftly shows up when this topic is broached:

The best-known current proponent of civilizational Christianity is the psychologist and pundit Jordan Peterson. For Peterson, Christianity is a Joseph Campbell–style hero’s journey, one specially designed for young men. In his short film “Message to the Christian Churches,” Peterson lays out his civilizational program and challenges the faith to keep up. Christianity, he tells us, in an echo of Ali’s argument, offers “a psychological approach to our ancient stories” that can help us oppose what he calls “an extremely damaging ideology.”

This ideology, predictably referred to elsewhere as “cultural Marxism,” tells us that Western culture is an “oppressive patriarchy,” that “human activity is fundamentally a planet-destroying exercise,” and that “damnable male ambition” is the root of the problem. Some of these fanatics, he tells us, believe that there should be “extreme limits on our wants, even on our needs.”

Extreme limits on our wants! Whatever would the Desert Fathers say?

Peterson goes on to lay out his case for the defense of civilization, which he defines as “a society centered on the encouraging, adventurous, masculine spirit.” The Christian Church, it turns out, exists to encourage this spirit. It is, he states,

there to remind people, young men included, and perhaps even first and foremost, that they have a woman to find, a garden to walk in, a family to nurture, an ark to build, a land to conquer, a ladder to heaven to build, and the utter, terrible catastrophe of life to face stalwartly in truth, devoted to love, and without fear.

Do you see anything missing in this list of what the Church ought to be doing? That’s right. It is Christ. It is Jesus. He gets not one mention. Not in the entire video. Neither does God the Father. Neither does the Holy Spirit. Instead, Peterson’s civilizational Church is to be a self-help club for young men. It is to be a cultural institution, fighting back against the woke and the “bloody Gaia worshippers” and the feminists and the life-sapping cultural Marxists. It sees life as a catastrophe, and the correct response to that catastrophe as masculine conquest. What Jordan Peterson wants, in other words, is a church that looks like Jordan Peterson. “You’re churches, for God’s sake!” he exclaims at one point, in the only mention of God in the entire film. “Quit fighting for social justice! Quit saving the bloody planet! Attend to some souls! That’s what you’re supposed to do!”

It was brought to my attention a while back that Jordan Peterson’s daughter apparently took a shine to the preaching of Mark Driscoll, which got mentioned by Aaron Renn at his Substack. Renn seems to not have an entirely cohesive or coherent take on Driscoll.  Maybe Renn doesn’t know that Josh McPherson has been in Mark Driscoll’s orbit for a decade? To say this:

… Howerton’s missiology sounded a lot like the old Mark Driscoll, and it struck me that Driscoll had a ministry similarly named the Resurgence. While Driscoll is out of favor with many today, he was undeniably successful in center city Seattle in an environment that was probably negative world avant la lattre.

In a post called “Negative World Missiology” invites the question of how successful Driscoll ultimately was here in Seattle. He resigned amid controversy in disgrace.  41 former Mars Hill elders have publicly agreed he is not fit for pastoral ministry. He was accused of plagiarism by Janet Mefferd on air and Warren Throckmorton chronicled the case for how and why those allegations had substance.  Driscoll decided to quit rather than comply with a restoration plan he was offered by his Board of Advisors and Accountability.  Seattle has gone on in the last ten years as if Mars Hill never happened.  The man who boasted that Mars Hill was gunning to take over Christian radio left Seattle behind and the influence of Mars Hill on Seattle musical culture is probably negligible at best. 

What men like Driscoll and Peterson have in common is they are selling scripts of adulthood, manhood particularly.  Act Like a Man: 9 Ways to Punch Life in the Mouth got published earlier this year, after all. Renn has noted that Dalrock and others from the manosphere have lambasted Mark Driscoll for, of all things, pandering to feminists.

Decades ago Driscoll would have been likely to joke that VeggieTales isn’t exactly cutting edge cultural production.  Now he’s stoked to show off hanging out with his buddy Eric Metaxas. He’s been on the train of “Have kids. One of the best ways to affect the culture is to overwhelm the future with who you're sending into it. The rainbow people don't multiply much (besides STDs) with their Romans 1 lifestyle.”  Renn seemed to grasp that figures like Driscoll tell men to “man up” but that doesn’t bring with it any power to do so.  Chris Rosebrough, Lutheran that he is, said that Mark preaches Law rather than Gospel.  The older the man gets the more his message seems to be of a piece with what Kingsnorth calls civilizational Christianity.  When Pastor Mark joked he started a fertility cult ten years ago I couldn’t laugh because it seemed like maybe he was really serious behind his joke. 

This kind of civilizational Christianity is Christendom 2.000 and its Gospel is a flipped script.  The script can be thought of in terms of a bromide, no single snowflake feels responsibility for the storm. The admonition of men like Peterson and Driscoll before him and probably Douglas Wilson before them is to take up the claim and tell each snowflake “Be the storm!”

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The obvious nature of simple script-flipping could be more obvious than in “How Toxic Masculinity Can Save the World” from December 6, 2024.

If young men can “activate” they can change the world, eh? Maybe these men are supposed to be the activated charcoal which absorb poisons in the stomach of the body of “civilization”? Well, Driscoll tweets out the big pep talk soundbites via X but among leaders and church planters back in 2007 he had a notoriously different appraisal:

https://joyfulexiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/preaching-paul_edits1.mp3

Here’s what I’ve learned, you, you cast vision for your mission and, if people don’t sign up, you move on. You move on. There are people who are gonna die in the wilders and there are people who are gonna take the hill. That’s just how it is.

I’ve observed this guy for decades and the difference between the pep talk he shares on X and what he has been known to say to a group of leader-insiders behind closed doors is stark indeed. I’ve known men who Driscoll threw off the bus and ran over with the bus that used to be called Mars Hill Church. Even if he hadn’t said and done all those things that got him in trouble, there is a foundational lie at the core of his pep talk about how toxic masculinity will save the world and it’s not necessarily anything to do with what is toxic or what counts as masculinity.  It’s something more mundane observed by the author of Ecclesiastes about how the race is not to the swift nor victory to the strong nor riches to the wise but time and chance happen to them all. Most guys are not gonna take that hill, whatever be the hills Mark Driscoll wants taken.  The social psychologist Roy Baumeister wrote in his book Is There Anything Good About Men that the foundational aspect of men and manhood with respect to societies is that men are disposable. Men can be (and are) sacrificed for the sake of grand causes and legacies.  I had some thoughts about that back in 2011.  The guys spouting off about “civilization” aren’t talking about the oracle to the eunuchs in Isaiah 56. The mimetic desire cultivation industry goes hard when saving civilization is what is at stake. 

 POSTSCRIPT 1-1-2025

I was reminded of Astral Codex Ten's post from October 2024 over the holidays

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/against-the-cultural-christianity

In my own reading from my sprawling list on the development of demonology in Western Europe I noticed a convergence of stringent cessationism with postmillennialist eschatologies seemed to be the seedbed for super-apostasy across four centuries.  In other words if you want to look at where a nexus of cessationism and postmillennialism has gone over the centuries since the Puritans New England and England hardly look like paragons of piety in 2024.  Doug Wilson types have to rely on a surmise of revivalism but how many revivals and Great Awakenings have we had in the US since Edwards?  Right, and how pious are those regions a few burned over districts later?  The trouble is that people who are for "Christian Civilization" now in 2024 seem to have given away the nature of their game in terms of the cultural renewal they keep beating the drum about rather than something like how discipleship in the teachings of Christ is important whether or not America ever becomes great again.  


2 comments:

chris s said...

"Every man longs for a battle to fight, an adventure to live, and a beauty to rescue.”

So it's taken 23 years to go mostly full circle, although a friend once said that Peterson in his cultural commentary mode sounded like the kind of religious nut you find in small town Alberta.

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

that which has been will be again ...
and of the writing of books there is no end ...
I could just stick with Ecclesiastes and probably should. :)