Something else about episode 5 has stuck with me but not merely because of episode 5 itself. As people who have been listening to so far will have noticed, The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill features comments from Tony Jones. Episode 5 makes reference to the late Rachel Held Evans. For those those who don't remember, those two names are associated with public dissent from things Mark Driscoll has said. It's taken me some time to get a clearer sense of what has seemed a delicate matter in complementarian and egalitarian differences that is in some ways ultimately not a delicate matter at all, in the matter of "what we do to women", progressive and conservative Christian celebrity cultures don't seem that different from the rest of the world whether we look at the track record of a Jones or a Driscoll and also, unfortunately, their respective supporters. Circling wagons around favorite stars, sometimes with other stars, can seem to lead to the same basic pattern across the aisles.
First let's start with David Hayward's comments back from later 2014 on Tony Jones' comments on Mark Driscoll:
Then we'll note Tony Jones' comments on Mark Driscoll from 2014.
I had some thoughts at the time about the dubiousness of Tony Jones and Peter Rollins deciding to sound off on Mark Driscoll. Theo-bros commenting from the nosebleed seats who were never actually at Mars Hill and used the demise of Mark Driscoll within Seattle as a pretext to pontificate on the sorts of things they write about anyway is, well, an awful lot like Mark Driscoll. And that was what I was mulling over when I posted in September 2014 about what some call watchblogging.
