Thursday, April 06, 2017

Throckmorton reports Driscoll recycling material from 2013's 10 commandments, a brief overview of highlights of recycling in the last few years

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/warrenthrockmorton/2017/04/06/mark-driscolls-recycling-ministry/
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Throckmorton has gotten word that Driscoll's ministry is providing a book as a response to donations, said book being about the Ten Commandments.  That material, Throckmorton has noted, is a recycling of the circa 2013 Mars Hill Ten Commandments material.

http://marshill.se/marshill/media/ten-commandments-set-free-to-live-free

Since a super majority of intellectual property generated under the Mars Hill brand was copyrighted to Mark Driscoll as an individual rather than to Mars Hill Church as a corporate entity, Driscoll has apparently ended up with a super majority of content from the Mars Hill era.

That missive from Mark Driscoll Ministries makes it hard not to think of a warning Driscoll gave back in 2006.

http://download.marshill.se/files/2006/01/22/20060122_preaching-jesus_sd_sd_audio.mp3

Part 3 of 1st Corinthians
Pastor Mark Driscoll
1 Corinthians 1:10-17
January 22, 2006
...
You know, what happens is they get these teams and they fight. Everybody gets a jersey, and it’s like you’re rock stars. And the indie rockers don’t like all the teeny-bop pop fans and everything’s sorta – and they carried this sort of cultural arrogance into the church. And they said, “Well, Paul’s my guy”, or “Peter’s my guy, Cephas.” Or “No, Apollos is my guy.” And they broke off into teams in the church. So they’d show up with their jerseys on, you know. The Raider fans over here in their silver and black, and then the Hawks fans over here on this side, and the East Coast hip-hoppers, and the West Coast hip-hoppers. And the whole church is divided and fighting, and they need not be.


They need not be the team of Paul, the team of Apollos, the team of Peter. Because Paul and Peter and Apollos all love Jesus, all said the same thing. They all serve the same God. Apollos was a great preacher. Peter was the leader of the disciples. And also Paul was the one who had founded the church. There were good reasons to respect each of these men. And what happened was that the church had an elevated sense of human leadership, and they adored, appreciated, admired and almost worshiped their leaders too much. This still happens in Christianity, right? Some of you love John Calvin. Some of you love John Wesley. Some of you love whomever it might be.

Some of you have teams that you consider yourself to be on, theologically or philosophically insofar as how church should be done. And what happens is that certain Christians get elevated like rock stars, and it’s not good. It’s not good at all. I know one church the pastor’s name is the domain for the church website. That’s not good. Like if it was www.PastorMarkRocksMyWorld.com and that was our website, you’d go, “You know that’s a little much.” That’s a little much, because if he gets hit by a car do we gotta get a new name? That seems that the church should be more than a focus on one person. That’s why to be honest with this church I try not to show up and speak at every event.
While Mark Driscoll Ministries isn't called PastorMarkRocksMyWorld.com the concern remains salient. 

For that matter, on the subject of sermons from the old Christians Gone Wild series, rebranded as Good News for Bad Christians ... we've noted this before but ...

http://markdriscoll.org/sermons/one-body-many-parts/
One Body, Many Parts
Pastor Mark Driscoll
1 Corinthians 12:12-26
July 30, 2006

If you stream it at Mark Driscoll's site the sermon is 27:07

If you download it from here ...
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/1st-corinthians
http://download.marshill.se/files/2006/07/30/20060730_one-body-many-parts_sd_audio.mp3
it's 1:10:56

So Mark Driscoll has been recycling and repurposing content, to be sure, but in some cases the repurposed content has been substantially trimmed down.  For a transcript of what was redacted out of the One Body Many Parts sermon you can go over here.

For instance ... take the Ruth series on a big little love story.
https://markdriscoll.org/sermon-series/ruth-a-big-little-love-story/

Ruth was a sermon series Driscoll preached and wrapped up literally ten years ago.
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth

http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-suffering
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-luck
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-blessing
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-risks
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-shrewdness
http://marshill.se/marshill/media/redeemingruth/gods-hand-in-our-redemption

Actually ten years ago this month would have been the middle of the Nehemiah sermon series.

Driscoll's recycled Ecclesiastes a few times over the years, too.

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2016/08/mark-driscoll-ministries-has-added-2015.html
Back in 2003, however, Driscoll was willing to share stories like this one:

http://download.marshill.se/files/2003/06/01/20030601_good-bad-days_sd_audio.mp3
GOOD BAD DAYS
Part 10 of Ecclesiastes
Pastor Mark Driscoll | Ecclesiastes 7:1-14 | June 01, 2003


40.00
How many guys, honestly (you don't have to raise your hands), how many guys in their teens or twenties (I'm in my thirties now so I'm at that place where I WOULD fight but it seems like a lot of work). But especially when I was in my teens I would, just all full of myself, I would just, I liked to fight.  I would LOOK for fights. Certain guys are like this. 

I actually beat up a guy on my OWN baseball team during a game. Usually, usually, you know, in a baseball game people why--baseball players are all wussies.  They never fight.  They all just run out to the middle of the field and look at each other which is, I dunno, like prom or something. They're all gazing into each other's eyes. I'm not sure what they're doing.  They hardly ever fight and they NEVER take the bats which, to me, seems like the most OBVIOUS thing.

I love baseball and I can remember when I was playing ball. A guy on my own team in the dugout says something so I attacked him.  Now very rarely do you see a bench-clearing brawl with just one team. Usually the other team's involved. I was a total hothead. I would fight through high school. I fight quite a bit.  Guys would say something, give a cross--you got a problem? That's what he's talking about [the author of Ecclesiastes]. Especially you young guys. Some of you young guys, you're LOOKING for a fight. You want to legitimize it, you want to justify it. Some of you married people are looking for a fight. Provoke. Provoke. Provoke. Boom, off they go like the Fourth of July.

A few years earlier, of course, he wrote:

https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2014/07/pussified-nation-page-6.html
William Wallace II
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 I love to fight. It's good to fight. Fighting is what we used to do before we all became pussified. Fighting is a lost art form. Fighting is cheaper than medication and more effective than counseling. Fighting always wins over compromise. Fighting is what passionate people do instead of killing. So log on, fight away. And if you are reading this and talking to yourself log on you coward and get in the ring. 

It could be all too easy for people who read all of "Pussified Nation" to forget that Driscoll, as William Wallace II, wrote this:

https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2014/07/pussified-nation-page-6.html
William Wallace II
posted 12-30-2000
This string is simply a work in law. Now that it is beginning to evoke a bit of response we will be moving forward with clarifying further the general roles of men and women as defined principally in Scripture, and practically in our present culture (hence the post for single men on how to get a wife). Our gatherings will deal in greater specificity with accountability and male relationships centered in Scripture, governed by grace, and empowered by the Spirit as one of the multiple means by which we grow up in Christ. This posting site is good for kicking up some interest and laying out some information but simply cannot do the work that a local church was intended to and is therefore limited.  ...


Lutherans might get what that meant, "a work in law", but non-Lutherans might not get it.  For that matter questions as to how firmly Mark Driscoll grasps what Lutherans would call "Gospel" remains an open-ended question but let's let Lutherans field that, shall we?

No, instead I suggest that if we want to try to understand what the aim was in more intra-Reformed type terms we could see that WW2 tipped his hand here and explained that what he was aiming for was what Jacques Ellul would have probably called propaganda of agitation that would prepare the way for propaganda of integration, which we've discussed at length over here.
https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2016/02/nearing-10th-anniversary-of-confessions.html
and also here
https://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2016/03/a-postscript-to-earlier-post-on.html

If Driscoll's going to keep recycling stuff then some folks can keep keeping a record of how pervasive the recycling is.  There's an old preacherly axiom that you only ever have one sermon and you preach it for the rest of your life but it seems almost no preachers who have said this ever meant it very literally.

Meanwhile, the ministry named after the guy who said you should be cautious about ministries named after one guy moves forward.

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