Tuesday, February 23, 2016

If "The Bible has nothing good to say about young men" why didn't Mark Driscoll notice that back in 2007 when he made Jamie Munson legal president of Mars Hill?

http://www.gracecitychurch.com/sermon/becoming-a-godly-man/
from Mark Driscoll sermon preached recently
27.30
The bible has nothing good to say about young men.


Now, sure, people have contested the reliability of this sweeping assertion.  Driscoll mentioned that "young men" meant anyone under 40.  So by the account of the synoptics Jesus died as a "young men" and he was sinless.  So there's one young man in the Bible there.  There's the advice to Timothy not to let anyone look down on him because of his youth, a verse that Driscoll seemed more swift to remember and quote circa 2000. 

But let's consider all this from another angle.  Mark Driscoll made a young man who was a convert to Christianity of the Driscollian kind into the legal president of Mars Hill back in 2007.  Jamie Munson was made president of Mars Hill back then and let's recall that when the termination and trial process got rolling Munson mentioned that grounds for immediate dismissal included not trusting or respecting the spiritual authority of executive leaders (e.g. guys like Jamie Munson or Mark Driscoll). Driscoll was, what 37 or 38 in 2007?  He, too, fit the definition of "young man". 

So if we take this axiom seriously that the Bible has nothing good to say about young men then when Munson claimed that a total lack of trust for executive leadership was an issue perhaps it could be said in defense of Meyer and Petry that "if" Driscoll's axiom is right and that the Bible's got nothing good to say about young guys then why SHOULD Meyer have trusted Munson or Driscoll's judgments regarding the 2007 by-laws?  Driscoll's axiom this year might suggest that the distrust from a previous decade is vindicated by Mark Driscoll's own axiom.

Given that there is no Mars Hill, and given that in the throng of praise for Sutton Turner a recurring thread from former MH employees was to praise his willingness to make tough decisions that saved Mars Hill from barreling over a fiscal cliff ...

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2015/11/reviewing-recommendations-of-mars-hill.html

it would seem that Driscoll's sweeping axiom about how the Bible's got nothing good to say about young men simply raises the question of why anyone thought he, as a young man, was ever suitable for ministry. SOMEBODY thought he was.  He surely thought he was and even claimed God told him to start planting churches. 

Driscoll celebrated making Munson president in a presentation he gave in 2008. It was in a Q&A session you probably better not bank too much on finding over here. It used to be ....

http://www.theresurgence.com/mark_driscoll_2008-02-27_video_tnc_qa

 2.28.2008

"Jamie Munson is head of the elder board. Jamie Munson is executive pastor. He is legal president of the organization. And for me, to be honest, it was the most freeing, liberating thing I could have dreamed of because now I don't have all that conflict of interest. I can be friends with someone but I don't have to fire them, do their performance review, and decide how much they get paid. It's just too conflicting for me." 
See, Driscoll once claimed one of his big mistakes was submitting himself to elders who were young and new and green even though he was the spring chicken of that set on the one hand and, on the other ... it made it all the more inexplicable why he put Munson in charge of Mars Hill if it was a mistake to load the leadership up with guys under 40.

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2014/09/if-driscoll-made-mistake-of-being-under.html

Driscoll made a point of saying when Munson resigned that Munson was always above reproach. Driscoll made Munson president by his own account.  Was Driscoll going to second-guess his own judgment in making a guy as young as Munson president of Mars Hill?

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