Wednesday, September 09, 2015

Mark Driscoll announces that The Rebel's Guide to Joy is back (though it's redacted). Revisiting after & before for selections from 2007 sermons

http://markdriscoll.org/philippians-is-back-whatcha-want-next/

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In 2007 I had the honor of preaching through the entire Bible book of Philippians, verse by verse. The sermon series, “The Rebel’s Guide to Joy,” has been offline for a while, and this week we are glad to bring it back. The series is 10 sermons long, and today we are posting the sermons in audio and transcript form!
 
I want to thank those of you who asked for this series. As people tell us which series they want back online next, it helps us choose what Bible teaching to release next

 Unredacted sermons would have been interesting.  Actually, in the case of "Joy in Anxiety", let's see what's up at the new site:

http://markdriscoll.org/sermons/joy-in-anxiety/

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So when there is something going on, Paul’s not shy about pointing it out. He doesn’t mention sin. He doesn’t mention heresy. Then the question that all the commentators wrestle over is, “Well what’s the reason that they have this division?” The answer is, “It doesn’t matter.” If it did matter, the Bible would tell us. But it doesn’t tell us because it doesn’t matter. Sometimes the issue really isn’t a big deal, or sometimes the issue isn’t the issue. The division is the bigger issue. I don’t know what the issue was. Maybe they had new bylaws. Maybe somebody was opposed to the Belltown campus. Maybe somebody just took a pay cut. Maybe somebody was leading the worship team, Euodia and then Syntyche, took over and then, she had to sing backup and she’s all bent out of shape and blogged about it, and then other people commented about it.

That squares with what has been preserved by Wenatchee The Hatchet here in the past.

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/06/joy-in-anxiety-driscolls-gloss-on.html
Joy in Anxiety
Part 9 of The Rebel's Guiide to Joy
Pastor Mark Driscoll
Phillipians 4:2-9
December 9 2007


So when there is something going on, Paul's not shy about pointing out. He doesn't mention sin. He doesn't mention ehresy. Then the question that all the commentators wrestle over is, "Well what's the reason that they have this division?" The answer is, "It doesn't matter." If it did matter, the Bible would tell us. But it doesn't tell us because it doesn't matter. Sometimes the issue really isn't a big deal, or sometimes the issue isn't the issue. The division is the bigger issue. I don't know what the issue was. Maybe they had new bylaws. Maybe somebody was opposed to the Belltown campus. Maybe somebody just took a pay cut. Maybe somebody was leading the worship team, Euodia and then Syntyche, took over and then she had to sing backup and she's all bent out of shape and blogged about it, and then other people commented about it. Then they sent a press release to The Stranger, and then the Seattle Times called and then KOMO 4 got involved, and next thing you know, it was mars Hill Church Phillipi. I don't ,know. Right?

Pretty much the same except that the earlier version continues with "Then they sent a press release ..." before moving on to
For those not already up to speed the blog post from June 2012 provides more background.


As for "Joy in Humility" ...
http://markdriscoll.org/sermons/joy-in-humility/
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God opposes the proud. That should sober us, should it not? But he gives grace to the humble. God is a God who loves to bless, and loves to serve, and loves to help. He just told us that he has the posture of the humble slave. Ours is a God who wants to give grace, but he only gives it to humble people.
 
So in closing, I’ll give you ten recommendations that I have taken from my friend, C.J. Mahaney, and I share them with you as various ways to clothe yourself in humility so that God might give you grace.  ...
 
four guys got mentioned in that sermon some of whom get discussed at the following links:
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/06/mars-hill-shoreline-and-pastor-tim.html

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/06/mars-hill-selling-city-overview-of-role.html

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-confluence-of-situations-andrew-lambs_6931.html
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2012/06/mars-hill-west-seattle-campus-and.html

But you can also read for yourself what was sliced from the earlier sermon.


God opposes the proud. That should sober us, should it not? But he gives grace to the humble. God is a God who loves to bless, and loves to serve, and loves to help. He just told us that he has the posture of the humble slave. Ours is a God who wants to give grace, but he only gives it to humble people

I’ll give you an example. In the middle of our reorganization as a church – we go to multiple campuses – we’ve just reconstituted what we’re calling a Board of Directors. It is sort of a senior level of eldership that oversees a lot of the policies and procedures for the whole church, and I was meditating on it this week. And I could tell you about all the men on the board. I’ll just tell you of a few. These are new men that were recently added to this board, and the one common thread which I see weaves all their stories together is this, humility. Not that they are humble, but they are pursuing humility by God’s grace.

First story is a man named Steve. He’s our campus pastor up at Shoreline, and he is a Board of Director member of our eldership. The first time I met him, he was at the Ballard campus after a service with a trash bag. He and his son were picking up garbage. Didn’t know who he was. The church was smaller at that time. I walked up to introduce myself. Took him out to coffee and said, “What’s your story?” Had to sort of pull it out of him. He was very humble. Come to find, he had two master degrees in theology, a great family, and 15 years plus experience as a Senior Pastor in a church.

I said, “What are you doing picking up trash?” He said, “Well somebody needs to pick up the garbage.”

Now he’s a campus pastor on the Board of Directors for your eldership. Why? Because God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble. That’s how it works. God needs someone to lead. He would rather have someone who is humble – that thinks of others and Jesus, not just themselves. That has the posture of a humble servant and a slave, not just a king who wants to rule.

Another man we appointed to that board is a man names Tim. I’ll tell you his story. He has an MBA in not-for-profit management. He has 20 or 30 years, I can’t remember, of not-for-profit manage experience. He’s run some very large, very significant ministries. He’s consulted for very large, very significant ministries. He nominated himself for eldership. Was a faithful member of this church. And he said, “You know, I think I can help. I think my management background will help organize Mars Hill.” We said, “Okay, well what’s your proposal?” He said, “I’ll work 50 hours a week for six months free of charge. I’ll quit my well paying job. I’ll shut down most of my consulting business. I’ll reduce my expenses, live off of my savings. I’ll nominate myself for eldership. I will work for free for six months, and I’ll come under Pastor Jamie, who’s young enough to be my son, and has none of the experience or education that I do so that I can humbly serve him so that Mars Hill can become a better church.”

God opposes the proud. Gives grace to the humble. The elders vote and say, “He should be an Executive Elder and on the Board of Directors.”

Third man I’ll tell you about is Zack Hubert. He’s working at Amazon.com. I think he has a master’s degree in physics and a master’s degree in theology. He’s smart. He was making very significant money writing code and doing programming for the Amazon.com website. Loves Jesus. We approached him. He was an Elder candidate. Said, “Would you take over all of our web development at Mars Hill Church? To do that, you would need to finish the eldership process. You would need to resign your job. You need to take a significant pay cut. And Mars Hill has a nice website, but it’s not nearly as cool on your resume at Amazon.com. And it will come to you and your family at the expense of your life’s earnings. Millions of dollars – you will give up millions of dollars.”
Here’s what he said. “It’s best for Mars Hill Church. That’s my church. I love that church. I’d love to do that.” Resigned, walked away from a prominent job, millions of dollars, to humbly serve at Mars Hill. We make him an Elder at the level of Director. Why? Because God opposes the proud and he gives grace to the humble. That’s how he works.

The last one is James. He was running a drug and alcohol treatment center, I think for the Union Gospel Mission. He was an elder at Doxa Church in West Seattle. He and Pastor Bill were there and I approached them and said, “I think we should partner together,” and turned that building into Mars Hill West Seattle. I don’t know what the building’s worth – $4 million, whatever. He said, “Well what’s the deal?” I said, “Give us the building, resign as elders, work through the membership process, work through the eldership process. I guarantee you nothing – no power, no job, no eldership. If you meet the qualifications and the men vote you in, we’ll make you an elder, but I guarantee you no job. Nothing. If you believe it’s right for Jesus, give us the building, resign, give up all power of authority, give up your position. Walk away from it all for the cause of Jesus.”
He said, “Okay, I think it’s best for Jesus.” He resigned, voted to hand us the building and the people. Humbly went through the eldership process. After he finished the membership process, oversees our drug and alcohol addiction recovery. We just voted him onto the Board of Directors. Why? Because God opposes the proud and he gives grace to the humble.

I want you to know that this actually works. I was a guy who was very skeptical. In some regards, this sounded like God talk to me. It actually works. God opposed the proud and he gives grace to the humble. And so 1 Peter 5 says, “Therefore clothe yourself with humility, and God will lift you up when he feels it’s the right time.”

So in closing, I’ll give you ten recommendations that I have taken from my friend, C.J. Mahaney, and I share them with you as various ways to clothe yourself in humility so that God might give you grace.  ....

So if you compare "Humility" for the before and after you can see a substantial amount of material got cut out that was very specific to Mars Hill.  For "Anxiety" the redactions don't initially seem nearly so severe. Whatever sermons come back it's not unrealistic to expect those revived sermons to be mostly purged of any references to Mars Hill.

It's a rather sad and funny irony.  After having regaled the public with "6 Reasons Why I'm Not Going Anywhere" back in 2010, discussed earlier this year at ...

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2015/07/mark-driscoll-from-july-6-2010-6.html

not only has it transpired that Mark Driscoll resigned membership and eldership at Mars Hill nearly a year ago, now that the sermons are being brought back online they're turning out to be pretty thoroughly scrubbed of even the mention of the church Mark Driscoll left behind.

POSTSCRIPT
For those who want linkage to original sources, as the corporation known as Mars Hill Fellowship keeps dissolving this year they've removed robots.txt (for now at the very least) and so you can atrawl up things from here and there.

The Rebel's Guide to Joy in Humility
http://web.archive.org/web/20120119100318/http://marshill.com/media/rebels-guide-to-joy/the-rebels-guide-to-joy-in-humility

The Rebel's Guide to Joy in Anxiety
http://web.archive.org/web/20120720115428/http://marshill.com/media/rebels-guide-to-joy/the-rebels-guide-to-joy-in-anxiety
http://web.archive.org/web/20120720115428/http://download.marshill.com/files/2007/12/09/20071209_the-rebels-guide-to-joy-in-anxiety_en_transcript.pdf

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