Monday, May 11, 2015

two months ago one Justin Dean claimed The Stranger published a conversation with him that he claims never happened, to date he has not clarified which one

Two months ago Wenatchee The Hatchet linked to Naked Pastor on Justin Dean's interview with Justin Blaney.
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2015/03/naked-pastor-on-justin-dean-interview.html

Amidst comments, there was a visitor.

Justin Dean
http://www.blogger.com/profile/15336796214868771061

http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2015/03/naked-pastor-on-justin-dean-interview.html?showComment=1426136579470#c5860508368120025323
03-11-2015

_________, your posts are so long it's hard to even respond to your points. I'll do my best. I would respond to bloggers and journalists all the time, trying our best to be open and communicate well. There were periods of time when we'd not respond at all. That was frustrating at times but we were doing our best to try and wade through the storm. The Stranger was just brutal and mean and would twist what I would say so we eventually just ignored them because they were hateful no matter what. They even posted a whole conversation with me once that was completely made up. It never happened. They aren't to be trusted.

I would reply to Warren Throckmorton as well, only to have him not report my comments or only report one part of my response and not the whole thing. He manipulated his stories how he saw fit. So one sided and we couldn't win.

So I'm not sure what your point is. We tried, but when "reporters" aren't acting with integrity how are you supposed to deal with it?
 10:02 PM


Back on March 20, I asked Dean if he'd be willing to clarify what he meant.


http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2015/03/naked-pastor-on-justin-dean-interview.html?showComment=1426913586679#c6716746463877754723
"They even posted a whole conversation with me once that was completely made up. It never happened. They aren't to be trusted."

Justin Dean, which article, author, and conversation does this statement refer to?
 9:53 PM  


To date there's no indication Justin Dean has ever answered the question in any context.  The Stranger staff have no problem being offensive to a lot of people, but Dean's allegation that The Stranger published a fabricated conversation is a pretty serious one.  There have been two months in which Dean could have answered the question and, so far, Dean hasn't deigned to answer a direct question.  He was willing to declare that The Stranger published a fabricated conversation but he couldn't be bothered to explain, even once, what that conversation was, what article it was in, which author wrote it and when it was published?

If Dean wasn't planning to get concrete, there's no point in having brought it up.  As Terry Teachout has noted, if you're going to make use of social media you have to recognize it for what it is. "If you’re not prepared to bite back—hard—then stay out of the deep end."

Dean did have other things to consider in March 2015, like the email list Craig Gross used to send a spam.
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/search/label/a%20list

4 comments:

mike w said...

This is quite likely a simple matter of Dean making vague allegations intended to undermine those who told the inconvenient truth about him. If someone defamed me in print, I don't think I'd have any problem naming chapter and verse, date and time--wild horses couldn't prevent me from doing so. I also don't know why exactly Mr. Dean thinks he should be the de facto Editor-in-Chief of Mr. Throckmorton's blog or the Stranger's weekly. When I've been quoted in the press, I haven't expected to have the final say over which part of my comments are used, I kind of thought that was a freedom of the press matter.

If, however, Mr. Dean legitimately thinks he was libeled by the Stranger or Mr. Throckmorton or had his comments unfairly used in a disingenuous manner by either, he can always sue for defamation or false lights publication. My guess is such a lawsuit will not be forthcoming.

Always watch out for vague, diffuse self-defenses like that--they are, IMHO, the sign of an inveterate liar. Driscoll specialized in them, perhaps the student became like the master, I think Jesus said something about that.

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

In the last five years it seems quite possible no one has done more to destroy the credibility of Mars Hill as an institution and a brand than Justin Dean, ever since he told Slate, for the record, that what happened to Andrew Lamb was explicable through organizational & communication incompetence. There's no other way to spin that.

It's as though since that time Justin Dean siphoned all the fuel out of a C-17 Globemaster III, poured it on the reputation of Mars Hill, and set it ablaze. Dean may feel they never stood a chance and with Dean handling the PR of Mars Hill it's hard to disagree.

mike w said...

Hard to doubt you, you have an insider's perspective that I, on the other side of the country, do not possess. I would hate to be a PR professional working for an extremely abusive organization. Public are of secondary importance to placating the forces that move the machine. I'm guessing Dean was little more than a clumsy mouthpiece for whatever Driscoll wanted put in the public sphere.

mike w said...

Hard to doubt you, you have an insider's perspective that I, on the other side of the country, do not possess. I would hate to be a PR professional working for an extremely abusive organization. Public are of secondary importance to placating the forces that move the machine. I'm guessing Dean was little more than a clumsy mouthpiece for whatever Driscoll wanted put in the public sphere.