Wednesday, December 17, 2014

question: who were the three required executive elders at Mars Hill from Dec 2010 to July 2011?


http://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/elders-response-to-questions-11-9-07.pdf
page 124 of 145
Article VI
The Executive Elder Team


SECTION B – The size of the Executive Elder Team shall be no less than three men and no more
than six men.


As a follow-up to yesterday's question, if Dave Bruskas was not already an executive elder by July 2011 it remains to be established who the other executive elders were besides Mark Driscoll and Jamie Munson.  Scott Melson had already gone by 2010 and Tim Beltz had also already vanished from the scene.  While it might be possible to suggest former executive elder Scott Thomas as possibly having had a role there's a problem, that in the announcement of Jamie Munson's resignation Scott Thomas was nominated to a return to executive eldership by Mark Driscoll in September 2011.

since the MH announcement has been scrubbed and robots.txt may still be in effect, here's the lengthy relevant excerpt as preserved by Wenatchee The Hatchet:
http://wenatcheethehatchet.blogspot.com/2014/06/jamie-munsons-role-within-mars-hill.html
http://marshill.com/2011/09/06/important-letters-from-pastors

My proposal to the Board of Directors (BOD) is that Pastor Jamie Munson remain an elder at Mars Hill Church Ballard. Following a sabbatical through the end of the year to enjoy his family, rest up, and finish writing a book, he will rejoin us as an unpaid board member at the highest legal level of Mars Hill Church. [Munson ended up on several boards] In God’s providence, the same day that Pastor Jamie made this decision, one of our unpaid BOD members had to resign due to escalating demands at his place of employment. So, while this man will remain an elder at his local Mars Hill Church, it opened a seat on the BOD for an unpaid elder, which Pastor Jamie fills perfectly. We need many more unpaid elders and Pastor Jamie helps us to raise the profile of that service. The plan is simply that Pastor Jamie will remain an elder at Mars Hill indefinitely. [emphasis added] He has clearly communicated his desire to stay at Mars Hill and serve as an elder and we welcome this. So, Pastor Jamie is still Pastor Jamie. Also, the door to employment is always open to Pastor Jamie. It has been clearly communicated to him by myself personally and by his performance review team collectively that should he ever change his mind, we would welcome him back on staff at Mars Hill Church. Our bylaws require that our Executive Elder (EE) team have at least three members. Pastor Dave Bruskas and I remain on the EE. Thankfully, Pastor Dave and his family recently moved to Seattle after leading Mars Hill Albuquerque. His leadership, wisdom, and experience come at just the right time and we praise God he is on the team. In God’s providence, the sermon he preached at Mars Hill Ballard will air this Sunday at all our other churches, helping you to get to know him better. To fill Pastor Jamie’s vacancy on the EE, I am recommending that the BOD vote for Pastor Scott Thomas to join the EE for at least the foreseeable future. Pastor Scott has served faithfully for many years as an elder at Mars Hill, is among our most trained and seasoned leaders, is already a BOD member, and has served previously for many years as an EE member while also leading Acts 29. [emphasis added] Pastor Dave and I both believe Pastor Scott is the best choice for this role in this season. Pastor Scott has been very clear in his love and commitment to Mars Hill and has said he will gladly serve wherever he is needed, which we deeply appreciate. Administratively, Pastor Jamie was our senior "king" and his departure requires very competent leadership to cover his many responsibilities. Thankfully, Pastor Jamie was a great leader and humble man. He surrounded himself with great people.
So the third executive elder couldn't have been Bruskas without some evidence and it certainly wasn't Rick Melson or Tim Beltz and it also couldn't have been Scott Thomas.  But someone had to be the third man, correct?

Then again, there was a period in 2007 where only Mark Driscoll and Jamie Munson seem to have been executive elders at the corporation when the minimum required was four and not three.  It's conceivable, then, that there simply were no other executive elders besides Driscoll and Munson in the December 2010 through July 2011 period in spite of the requirement of the bylaws that Munson drafted that there be at least three men occupying executive pastoral offices.  Then again, if the protocol in 2011 was like 2007 where it could seem as though things were done based on the new rules that hadn't been written down yet perhaps Sutton Turner's being on the executive team in any fashion was considered sufficient reason for his signature on the Result Source Inc. contract to be the equivalent of a signature by an executive elder even though Turner wasn't even formally installed as an elder until a month or so after the contract was inked.

"If" that were the case it could suggest that regardless of whatever ways the leadership of Mars Hill rebrands itself or drafts newer bylaws the historical precedent may be that the leaders occasionally elect to disregard their own bylaws depending on what they believe the situation calls for.

As Mars Hill is just a week or so away from dissolving only the Board of Advisors and Accountability would have any power at all to make any decisions and it seems that reincorporating and dividing up the real estate holdings to subsidiary campus corporations may be the order of the month.  Without a president or a secretary/treasurer to get things done it'd be left to the BoAA, such as it is.  Meanwhile, if someone can establish who the third man (if there even was one) in executive eldership at Mars Hill in the aforementioned slot of December 2010 through July 2011 a confirmation would be handy.

If time and resources permit the 2008 warfare transcription and discussion should eventually resume.
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