Monday, August 25, 2014

a few extra links

Phoenix Preacher heard the statement yesterday and states that Driscoll won.  Regular Babylon's Dread described the statement as "obfuscation by piety".

Becky Garrison has a new piece at Religion Dispatches providing an overview of recent coverage and events.

... and ...

Christian News has some coverage.

For an older piece from this month, The Stranger covered the ramp up to the protest.

Jim Henderson, "Why I protested and why I'm done."

KOMO coverage

Over at Fighting for the Faith Chris Rosebrough keeps Driscoll and Mars Hill in discussion here and here.  The more recent audio is currently so truncated Driscoll doesn't come up, though.  Perhaps that may get fixed later. UPDATE 08-26-2014 newer link has been fixed

A few new stories at We Love Mars Hill

Karen Schaeffer
Jen Zug (fuller version here)

While Michael over at Phoenix Preacher considers the game over and that Driscoll has won, a line from Dr. Manhattan might apply, "Nothing really ends."  Driscoll has stepped down for a while and Bruskas and apparently campus pastors will do more preaching.  Had this option been exercised a decade ago a great deal of the present messes might have been prevented, on at least some things. 

But the governance and financials are still what they are and Tripp's resignation earlier this year and public vote of no confidence in the effectiveness of the BoAA has not yet been addressed.

... Such a board at best can provide financial accountability, but it will find it very difficult to provide the kind of hands-on spiritual direction and protection that every Christian pastor needs. Unwittingly what happens is that the external accountability board becomes an inadequate replacement for a biblically functioning internal elder board that is the way God designed his church to be lead and pastors to be guided and protected.

So, since I knew that I could not be the kind of help that I would like to be through the vehicle of the BoAA, I resigned from that position.

I would still love to see the leadership community of Mars Hill Church become itself a culture of grace and I am still willing to help, but not through the means of a board that will never be able to do what it was designed to do.

Things may change and the changes may be positive, but the full extent of the problematic patterns that have been pointed out by evangelicals and conservatives in the last year has not occurred.  While Wenatchee The Hatchet has sounded off on Turner, Evans and Piatt writing about Driscoll in the last month or so the grandest no-prize of late would have to go to Frank Schaeffer, whose post was sufficiently juvenile enough to make the aforementioned authors look thoughtful and restrained because, well, compared to Frank Schaeffer they are.  Turner, at least, broke the story of Andrew Lamb and was able to document things reliably enough (maybe too reliably) for Wenatchee The Hatchet to figure out who the parties were over a single weekend.  So there's that.  :) 

Schaeffer's stunt may well remind us all in Christian writing, blogging and publishing that personality cults, trading on names at the price of substance, and opportunistically shilling things is a problem across the board.  It's not a strictly left or right problem within Christianity in the United States (or even within strictly religious circles). 

Not going to be offering a whole lot of commentary about the words and events themselves because nobody's got a particularly good reason to care what Wenatchee The Hatchet thinks and Wenatchee The Hatchet isn't entirely sure what to think (that would be worth putting into words) about recent events just yet.

... and another one, from Doug Wilson, with a short excerpt.

... I trust that this is what Mark is going to do. But those who are abandoning ship really need to check their motives. If they were attracted to Mark’s ministry in the first place because of all the mojo, and they are departing now because they think of mojo as the departing Shekinah cloud of glory, then they are the one group that is not learning anything from this mess. They were chasing sparkly ministries before, and they are chasing them now.

There are thoughts but they are probably (if posted at all) saved for later.

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