Friday, January 17, 2014

Malachi at MH, part 3: it may not be all about the numbers but ... Driscoll is convinced 2014 will be the biggest year ever

December 01, 2013
http://marshill.com/media/malachi-living-for-a-legacy/where-is-my-honor
http://marshill.com/en/transcript/malachi-living-for-a-legacy/where-is-my-honor

MALACHI: LIVING FOR A LEGACY
 WHERE IS MY HONOR?
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Mars Hill, I am convinced, utterly convinced that we are poised for the biggest year we’ve ever had. And we’ve got some great leaders, and I’ve got a great honor today of sharing some of them with you. I want you to see who we’re talking about, and what they’re doing, and where they’re leading. We’ve pulled up their giving. They’re all giving, OK? They’re all serving, they’re all working, they’re all caring, they’re all trying. And you are helping them by giving generously and praying faithfully.
A man that convinced that 2014 will be the biggest year Mars Hill has ever had should start sending numbers to Outreach, right? 

http://marshill.com/2013/08/27/it-s-all-about-the-numbers
By Pastor Mark Driscoll
On September 12th, Outreach magazine will release its annual issue listing the 100 largest and fastest-growing churches in the nation. For the first time in a number of years, you won’t see Mars Hill Church listed.

... We will continue to count things at Mars Hill, such as how many people we have on Sundays, how many people are baptized every year, how many people are in Community Groups, how many elders we have to lovingly lead our people, how many people are giving financially, how many dollars we are bringing in and sending out, how many locations and services we have, etc. But, we will use that data internally for our church and not be publishing it much externally. [emphasis added]

Of course here at Wenatchee The Hatchet the little detail about how the internal numbers attested to numeric decline has been discussed at some length in this blog post over here.  Internal numbers attested to a decline and the publicly available FY2013 annual report attested to a decline in attendance and a basically nominal rise in contracted members of just sixty people, and this despite adding 1,337 members.  It may be prudent from here on out to take whatever the average attendance is in an annual report and whittle the number down by one fifth that total to account for the potential counting of children.

But maybe the "biggest year" could refer to expenses and some kind of forthcoming capital campaign that they need a Capital Development Manager for. 

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Speaking of capital campaign, if you go to goodforbellevue.marshill.com you'll notice they've scrubbed all references to purchasing the Sound Transit property. Wonder where else they'll be looking...

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

So much for the following quote:

After many months of searching and narrowing down our choices, only one building in Bellevue is available that meets the needs of the church that God is building on the Eastside. A few weeks ago we made an offer on a property in the Bel-Red corridor on 120th St. which is currently owned by the International Paper Company.

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Thanks to ... some webpage the earlier form is still easy enough to consult:

http://web.archive.org/web/20131026120216/http://goodforbellevue.marshill.com/about/

Anonymous said...

More and more sermons stress generosity, giving faithfully, leaving legacy (ie through your giving). It all about the numbers... the number of dollars.

Anonymous said...

Moi, Gunn, Currah, Meyer, Petry - all gave generously of their time, talent, and treasure to Mars Hill because they believed they were building a legacy. That "legacy" has been systematically erased. Even though Moi and Gunn were founders of MH, try to find any of their recorded sermons, teachings, or wrtings. All gone. Purged.

Anyone foolish enough to buy into Driscoll's propaganda should study history and realize that the only legacy they are funding is his. It's all about Driscoll.

Winston said...

On a slightly different topic, I believe Driscoll is beginning to crack. Driscoll preached on going through trials in James 1 using the recent controversy as his teaching illustrations. He said that while preparing his message this week (all of us except Bellevue are watching last weeks sermons), his hand was trembling because of the stress. But most troubling of all, Driscoll seemed erratic and wired. I take that back, not just wired, he was teetering on delirious! It was very very bizarre. He was speaking at lightening speed, apologizing for his verbal trips, beyond animated, even falling on the ground and using way too many gestures, and he was yelling the ENTIRE sermon. I wonder if he was impaired by a narcotic, seriously. Topped off by once again, telling everyone how we beat our financial goal last year and encouraging us all to give.

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

Thanks for the heads up, Winston.
Link away when you get a chance. This is a sermon that Wenatchee may have to read and hear.

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

and if you've got a minute indication for where he discusses the controversy add that, too, if you would. Can't be 100% sure that stuff will necessarily make it into the transcriptions that are edited for readability or not.

Anonymous said...

http://marshill.com/media/james-jesus-s-bold-little-brother/james-1-2-8

Andrew O'Brien said...

Winston -

I just watched a few minutes of the Sermon. For me, it was unwatchable. You weren't kidding about his yelling.

Wenatchee the Hatchet said...

It's kind of amazing he sustains HOW DARE YOU!? levels of volume for about the first ten minutes. Haven't had the patience or energy to listen to the whole thing yet even though I've been listening through Sequenzas by Luciano Berio lately!